chris4stars Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) as the topic and title suggests im curious....anyone tried it? ratio works out as 1.375 which is inbetween what 23:17 and 18:13 would feel like in theory...ive just not tried those before for trials as ive only ever ridden 18:14 would like to know if its possible on the fourplay (old one) with chain lengths etc, and if so...how the harder ratios feel for trials type moves, benefits/drawbacks etc thanks Edited May 22, 2011 by chris4stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 It's pretty sweet - much better than 18:14 for a nice rolly bike, so unless you're on a compy 24" then go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moff Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 i ride a 22:16 gearing, but i've never really ridden any other gearing. thought it was the standard gearing for a 24" it is pretty perfect for street riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Mallinson Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I used to ride 22-16, its pretty standard on inspireds. If trialtech made a 22t sprocket I'd go for that, I'm running 23-16 just now it feels pretty good but maybe a little bit easier would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian J Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Run 23/17 with kmc and u don't have to run a tensioner! Plus feels perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 thanks for the replies guys glad i dont have to worry about getting halflinks and all that to get it to run well (with a tensioner) Run 23/17 with kmc and u don't have to run a tensioner! Plus feels perfect can i see a pic if you have one? how does it handle the stretch? i go through enough chains as it is...and id rather not invest in a 23t if i already have a 22t... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 22-16 is just about perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deilsonwheels Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I run 22-16 on my 24" Echo street bike, fits perfectly no tensioner needed. If I was going to change it I'd want a slightly bigger ratio if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 16:13 for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotic3vil Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I already used 18:13, 22:17 and 22:16. If you ride the Inspired Mk.I due to the bigger WB you can ride trials with 18:13/22:16 alright but if you got the Mk.2 a lighter gear like 22:17 will be the best since you have less leverage from the bike you can get extra impulse from you're cranks. I started riding the Mk.2 with the stock 22:16 changed to 22:17 for 2 months and yesterday tried out the 22:16 again and I must say I'm going back to 22:17. It will seem a bit light but is far better for gaps, pedal to front and sides, specially running 65psi on both tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Weird, I found the exact opposite... Currently running 23:16 on mine. Downsizing to 22:15 soon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Mallinson Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Weird, I found the exact opposite... Currently running 23:16 on mine. Downsizing to 22:15 soon though. How are you getting a 22t with screw on cranks? Are trialtech doing a 22t sprocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I believe so, as a replacement for the older/discontinued 23t from previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Mallinson Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Good because 23-16 is too hard for riding brakes for me just now, I'm guessing the bashring will stay the same size. Edited May 25, 2011 by Milo123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 They discontinued the old 23t one, so I'd imagine they'd do a slightly smaller, 22t-sized one. Shouldn't be too hard to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Mallinson Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Might just grind mine down when I get a 22t then instead of spending another £30 on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I already used 18:13, 22:17 and 22:16. If you ride the Inspired Mk.I due to the bigger WB you can ride trials with 18:13/22:16 alright but if you got the Mk.2 a lighter gear like 22:17 will be the best since you have less leverage from the bike you can get extra impulse from you're cranks. I started riding the Mk.2 with the stock 22:16 changed to 22:17 for 2 months and yesterday tried out the 22:16 again and I must say I'm going back to 22:17. It will seem a bit light but is far better for gaps, pedal to front and sides, specially running 65psi on both tires. mine is the model just before the '11 i get what youre saying about gaps...at the mo though 18:14 (similar to 22:17) feels too easy? part of me thought a higher gear would mean i could gap and do static stuff further? is it as simple as if your legs are strong enough then yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotic3vil Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Weird, I found the exact opposite... Currently running 23:16 on mine. Downsizing to 22:15 soon though. It's what I felt. With higher gear you have to go faster and get further distance from the object in order to get the proper crank timing. Pedal ups to front require pulling up the front wheel near the object as possible and when you do this with a high gear when you do the first stoke to pull it up, the second stroke to nose dive into the object and this is when you get your feet in a odd position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I just found it was a case of where in the stroke I put the power down. I've tried everything from 23:18 to 23:15, and the only difference was literally just how I had to put the pedal pressure on. I didn't find a problem with getting my feet in the 'wrong' place or anything, at least not that I noticed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltesian Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 What do you think is would be better for general trials/street use on a fourplay? 22:16 or 23:16? Here is a 22t screw on cog that has the same threads as a trialtech screw on, so it should work with most cranks. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=surly+22th&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=mph&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=ivns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1920&bih=877&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9772101795564394753&sa=X&ei=qOrfTeTiGMfWiAKilvTqCg&ved=0CE0Q8wIwAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Mallinson Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Depends if you are riding brakes or not, 23-16 is good for brakeless as your not really doing any gapsand you get good speed for things. 22-16 is proberly better alround, I running 23-16 just now with brakes which I'm not too sure on seems a wee bit hard, will go back to 18t in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 After riding Dave Marshall's fourplay at the DJ ride i'd say 22-16 is spot on for a 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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