trialsmax04 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Hi all, Immcurrently considering going to tubeless set up on the MTB to reduce rolling weight. Ive read up a few different " ghetto" and it seams it can be done fairly cheep. I'm looking to also get some maxxis ardents or advantage tyres too. Any one tried tubeless on these? Back to title, pro's and con's of tubeless? Thanks, Mas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Shortage Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/goodies/go-tubeless.htm Doesn't seem worth it unless you're HXC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 My dad has gone tubeless after he got sick of punctures from thorns and glass. He's had it for about a month or 2 now and I don't think he'll be going back to tubes, he rides often and hasn't had a single puncture since changing. You can get kits which allow you to remove the valve and fit a normal tube in the case of a severe puncture that the sealant can't deal with which, IMO, eliminates the biggest weakness of tubeless setups. We've got a compressor at home so that makes life much easier with regards to initial set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/goodies/go-tubeless.htm Doesn't seem worth it unless you're HXC! How old is that site though?! A lot of people are using it these days, it can't be that bad. I've been meaning to check it out, reckon next time I buy new wheels I'll get tubeless-compatible ones. Mot of the complaints I've heard seem to be at low pressures the tyre will "burp" air out if it folds - which is a big problem for trials or DH pressures but for XC not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 True that. Im going to try it. Tomm have you seen the Ghetto version? You dont need special rims or tyres... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 ive done the ghetto tubeless way, cost me about £11 all in, and wouldnt go back to tubed again, im a big guy, and ride rocky terrain used to pinch flat semi often, (generally id get a slow puncture from heather/brambles, but not realise, and then id hit a rock and snakebite it) probably done 400 miles on the set up i got now, i still got 90% of my sealant left. and the bmx inner tube as rim tape will last for years. id of spent more than that on 26" tubes in the mean time. Only thing is if your leaving the bike for 3 months+ (i got glandula fever to the point of being on an IV in hospital for 5 days) they do seap a small amount of air and over that time the pressure drops so you end up having to reseal the tyre and reinflate, but its not an issue really, took 10 minutes to redo. and its good to go again alternatively just top the pressure up when it drops 10 psi or so (5-6 weeks) but youd generally check pressures more often than that anyway. sealant + 2 bmx tubes, preferably the type with threaded valves and lock nuts. job done. seems to work as well as the latex sealant and is way cheaper. less rolling weight no pinch flats no punctures no need to carry a puncture repair kit. I still keep 2 spare tubes in my bag, but i havent had to use them yet, before now ive cut a 25 mile ride short due to going through the 3 spare tubes i had in about 6 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Cheers for the input dude. Im defiantly going to give it a go. Im just worried about the horror stories of the sealant de-laminating tyres and such. Im now going to be on the look out for some cheep (ish) new tyres for my Wales trips this summer. Thinking about some Rubber Queen 2.2s to whack on there. You can still get the non black-chilli version with a little hunting, which drops the price to £15 each. Did a bit of working out, the claied weight of the Conti's is 650g each. My current tyres are 1,100g (duel ply highrollers). so : 1100g tyre + 200g tube =1300 x 2 = 2600g currently 650g Conti tyre + 60g cut tube + 60g sealant = 770g x 2 = 1540g tubeless set up. £30 for tyres £5 for tubes £12 for sealant = £47 for new tyres and tubeless set up! I have to keep it fairly cheep because im still on a hunt for a bigger riding pack for summer. There goes another £50!! Sound about right? A drop of over a kilo rotating weight is massive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Cheers for the input dude. Im defiantly going to give it a go. Im just worried about the horror stories of the sealant de-laminating tyres and such. Im now going to be on the look out for some cheep (ish) new tyres for my Wales trips this summer. Thinking about some Rubber Queen 2.2s to whack on there. You can still get the non black-chilli version with a little hunting, which drops the price to £15 each. Did a bit of working out, the claied weight of the Conti's is 650g each. My current tyres are 1,100g (duel ply highrollers). so : 1100g tyre + 200g tube =1300 x 2 = 2600g currently 650g Conti tyre + 60g cut tube + 60g sealant = 770g x 2 = 1540g tubeless set up. £30 for tyres £5 for tubes £12 for sealant = £47 for new tyres and tubeless set up! I have to keep it fairly cheep because im still on a hunt for a bigger riding pack for summer. There goes another £50!! Sound about right? A drop of over a kilo rotating weight is massive! yea its really noticeable on mine, also seems to handle better with regards to being able to feel exactly when the grips going to break away. my tyres have been sealed since mid april last year at a guess, and the there still good(although as said i havent used the latex sealant everyone uses, i used that oko stuff, because if it failed, id of had other uses for it, but its been fine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) Yea, well I've had a bit of a search around and not many people have tried it for MTB use. But as it's all gone fine for you and it's cheep enough might as well try it. Really stumped with tyres though at the moment. Seams to be conflicting reviews about everything. Might just do the single ply high roller route. Rubber queen 2.2s are tempting me though. Edited May 26, 2011 by trialsmax04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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