jaym018 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hia guys Got a few problems which are going to be very hard to explain!! Well i have a couple of spokes that are loose on the back wheel and the thread has gone so they wont tighten, no bike shop has any time to sort it and i havent got a jog to make the wheel straight! Anyway im not sure this is the whole problem! Here is where the fun starts trying to explain... If you stand the bike still and put the back brake on and rock it forwards and backwards the wheel moves a couple of inches but the disc stays still..... Secondly the front end is loose too think this is the headset, anyway of tightening without a tool? Thanks and sorry for any stupid questions Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 you dont have an allen key? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaym018 Posted May 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 you dont have an allen key? Ive tightened the bolt on the headset didnt know if there was another way! Maybe bearings have gone :/ Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hia guys Got a few problems which are going to be very hard to explain!! Well i have a couple of spokes that are loose on the back wheel and the thread has gone so they wont tighten, no bike shop has any time to sort it and i havent got a jog to make the wheel straight! Anyway im not sure this is the whole problem! Here is where the fun starts trying to explain... If you stand the bike still and put the back brake on and rock it forwards and backwards the wheel moves a couple of inches but the disc stays still..... Secondly the front end is loose too think this is the headset, anyway of tightening without a tool? Thanks and sorry for any stupid questions Jay Don't need a jig to true your wheel, use the distances between the brake pads and the rim, or put a ziptie on the frame and use that to see which way the wheel goes. Try some spray lube on the spoke threads that are a bit tight, you might be lucky. The back and forth movement with the disc staying still will just be loose disc bolts - there's 6 (normally) that attach it to the hub, tighten those. For the headset, just use an allen key to undo the stem bolts, then do up the bolt in the top cap till the slack is gone. Do the stem back up and you're sorted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaym018 Posted May 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Don't need a jig to true your wheel, use the distances between the brake pads and the rim, or put a ziptie on the frame and use that to see which way the wheel goes. Try some spray lube on the spoke threads that are a bit tight, you might be lucky. The back and forth movement with the disc staying still will just be loose disc bolts - there's 6 (normally) that attach it to the hub, tighten those. For the headset, just use an allen key to undo the stem bolts, then do up the bolt in the top cap till the slack is gone. Do the stem back up and you're sorted. Thanks very much!! Bike shops really are a thing of the past haha! I shall go try true the wheel now! Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 All of my rotor bolts are tight and my disc rocks back and forth, apparently its just the pads moving and they'll bed in soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 disc pads always have a slight bit of movement, that will never go away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) for the headset problem, undo the stem bolts (so the bars can twist without moving the wheel), then tighten down the topcap bolt, then re-tighten the stem bolts. if problem carries on, its your headset, that will mean removing bars and forks etc, make sure headset cups are in properly, if not.. bang them in properly - (technical term that..) if they are and your sure your headset is buggered, get a new one and fit properly. then re fit forks and bars. ......................................................................................................... for the rotor problem, make sure the rotor bolts are all tight (which youve already done i spose) make sure the actual caliper is tight on the frame, your pads shouldnt move an inch thats for sure. make sure your wheel is all tight in the frame. its probably just something loose, if not something is buggered. (its hard to know without looking at the bike really) ......................................................................................................... take your wheel out and remove the buggered spokes, if you dont know the spoke pattern like 3x 2x etc. take a picture or mark it so you know how the spoke goes back in. (i.e, which spokes it goes under and over.) then replace the spoke and the nipple, put a dab of grease on the thread of the new spoke, not that important if you dont have any grease. tighten it up nice. put your wheel back in the frame, hold the frame up so you can spin the wheel freely. use your brake pads as a guide, spin your wheel and youll see it move to one side say if the rim moves to the left then back, you need to tighten all the nipples that are between the points on the rim where it moved out, then in again. and only on the spokes leaning up to the right (so it pulls the rim back into the middle) keep on doing this process until straight. theres some good videos on you tube on how to lace a wheel and true it, its worth learning it, then if you do bugger it up, just take it to a bike shop. Edited May 4, 2011 by Carlperkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 for the headset problem, undo the stem bolts (so the bars can twist without moving the wheel), then tighten down the topcap bolt, then re-tighten the stem bolts. if problem carries on, its your headset, that will mean removing bars and forks etc, make sure headset cups are in properly, if not.. bang them in properly - (technical term that..) if they are and your sure your headset is buggered, get a new one and fit properly. then re fit forks and bars. ......................................................................................................... for the rotor problem, make sure the rotor bolts are all tight (which youve already done i spose) make sure the actual caliper is tight on the frame, your pads shouldnt move an inch thats for sure. make sure your wheel is all tight in the frame. its probably just something loose, if not something is buggered. (its hard to know without looking at the bike really) ......................................................................................................... take your wheel out and remove the buggered spokes, if you dont know the spoke pattern like 3x 2x etc. take a picture or mark it so you know how the spoke goes back in. (i.e, which spokes it goes under and over.) then replace the spoke and the nipple, put a dab of grease on the thread of the new spoke, not that important if you dont have any grease. tighten it up nice. put your wheel back in the frame, hold the frame up so you can spin the wheel freely. use your brake pads as a guide, spin your wheel and youll see it move to one side say if the rim moves to the left then back, you need to tighten all the nipples that are between the points on the rim where it moved out, then in again. and only on the spokes leaning up to the right (so it pulls the rim back into the middle) keep on doing this process until straight. theres some good videos on you tube on how to lace a wheel and true it, its worth learning it, then if you do bugger it up, just take it to a bike shop. Err... Yeah what he said lol ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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