Azarathal Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Heya guys, I have a feeling it could be a mixture of three problems. 1: Poor bleed, both brakes pull in to about an inch away from the bar. Every other hope I've tried has had barely any lever travel, bites instantly and has amazing hold and feels solid. 2: Contaminated pads / rotor. When my brake gets wet it honks an squeals and takes ages to start working again. 3: Leaking. I occasionally find traces of oil on the caliper and lever blade but the lever feel doesn't seem affected. I'm thinking of returning them to Hope for a service whilst my bike is awaiting a headset. What do you guy think? Edited May 3, 2011 by Azarathal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I'm thinking of returning them to Hope for a service whilst my bike is awaiting a headset. What do you guy think? Definitely do this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted May 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Cheers for the advice Adam, do you know how long they usually take or is it best to phone them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 phone them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Also when you fit them again make sure the pads hit at exactly the same time. If you don't this makes hopes feel like shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted May 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 They want £45 per brake, I'll leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 It's £40 for a mono trials and it includes hosing, seals, pistons, new pads, re-bleed and any connector-y pieces. Seems a pretty friggin good deal to me. Considering it myself as my 06 Mono Trial hasn't worked as good as it should for a long time now despite my efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 They want £45 per brake Rotor: £20. Pads: £15. That's how much you'll need to spend to get the brake 75% there. I'd pay the extra tenner to have it spot on! At least if something goes wrong in the near future you have some comeback... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 A new rotor isn't included in the price though is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 No, but my point is that to get that brake working again, you'll need to spend at least £35 and a fair bit of time bleeding it yourself anyway. Might as well send it off for the service. Guess you would need the £20 rotor PLUS the £45 service - my maths/brain fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 If the rotor is in good condition then i think it's a good price. If like me your brake is years old and the rotor may well also be no good then it becomes a case of possibly being worth just getting a new brake....but at the same time that might just be wasting money...oh life's insignificant dilema's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Bumping this up. New pads, new rotor, spent ages setting it up, spent over an hour riding around and dragging / trying to ride trials and the same problem. Rear hope simply has next to no bite and shitty hold. Going forwards it seems to be ok (slips a little bit) but backwards it's as if there isn't even a brake. Giving up on it for now, hopefully someone at Radfest will be kind enough to give me a hand, if I can't sort it then there'll be a pair of Monty Hope's on the market :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 What size rotor and wheel combo is it? If it's 26" wheel with 160mm rotor that won't help your case. It would be worth rebleeding it if you haven't already, it isn't difficult to do and can make the world of a difference. Or if it is bled well have you adjusted the screw in the brass barrel to a position which makes for a nice biting point for you? Simple but worth mentioning. If this is wound all the way in it is more than overdue a bleed. Check that the copper washers and seals are in good condition so it isn't leaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete.M Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 You mentioned you occasionally get traces of oil on the caliper? Maybe the oil has got on the pads. New seals? I hate discs with a passion, wasted so much time on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I've actually got new brakes since then too No leaks or contamination, bite point is perfect and pads hit at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 If the rotor is in good condition then i think it's a good price. If like me your brake is years old and the rotor may well also be no good then it becomes a case of possibly being worth just getting a new brake....but at the same time that might just be wasting money...oh life's insignificant dilema's. Just do as Adam Says he obviously knows what he's talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Just do as Adam Says he obviously knows what he's talking about. The fact its happened with two seperate brakes, new rotors and new pads I'm gunna go with "I'm shit at setting discs up". Might go back along the route of running it slammed in the dropout with a spoke tentioner so at least it's perfectly straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I've actually got new brakes since then too Yep, sold one of them to me and it worked perfectly after a decent bleed... I'm beginning to think that maybe disc brakes aren't for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Have you tried bleeding through from bottom to top with a syringe? If you are seeing spots of oil on the caliper then you need to sort out the leak otherwise you will never get it working properly. Either send it off for service or do it yourself if you have access to the tools, for what its likely to cost though I would send it off. Have you face the disk mounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 (edited) have you adjusted the screw in the brass barrel to a position which makes for a nice biting point for you? Hey I might try this as I need to get an earlier biting point...whereabouts would I find this screw/brass barrel? Edited July 22, 2011 by kaybs41282 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Why didn't you just send it to hope? You spent £20-£25 on pads, when for £40 you could have had Hope give it the offical A-OK. After i replied to your original comment i sent my brake which didn't work at all off to Hope and 3 days later i had a brake that works beautifully, with a lot of new parts in (including pads), only for a few quid more. Seems you missed a trick there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Have you tried bleeding through from bottom to top with a syringe? If you are seeing spots of oil on the caliper then you need to sort out the leak otherwise you will never get it working properly. Either send it off for service or do it yourself if you have access to the tools, for what its likely to cost though I would send it off. Have you face the disk mounts? that makes a hell of a difference! But I cant see why you shelled out on new pads and new rotor which cost X amount, and you could have saved a bit and sent it to hope. Them guys do know that there looking for! the fluid wont make too much difference will it? Its DOT 4 or 5 in hopes init? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadNick1.2 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Get a BB7 mate, a lot less hassle. No more bleeding of brakes, contamination of pads. It made my life easy. Cheap to replace parts too. BB7 for the Win!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manus-Rider Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 this happened to me and it was because air was getting in to my caliper, because one off my washers were uneven and started letting air in to the caliper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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