dann2707 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 I didnt watch it. Politics and the royal wedding, i just dont have time for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 The Royal Familey use tax payers money for a lot of their shit which I don't think is fair. But then again they make so much money from tourism etc so it doesn't matter either way. We have a PM who makes all the decisions and the monarch at the time really has no power so it's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 Why is it you don't like having a royal family? Cos it's coooool maaaaan. Viva la revolution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 I didn't watch it, I went out riding all day instead There are highlights on BBC1 now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deilsonwheels Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I almost take comfort knowing that there's a type of leader that does not change based on a voting system. Well dude, go and have a chat with the Libyans about that. I don't like the royals because I would rather celebrate democracy and community rather than inherited privilege. I think the argument that they bring in as much money as they cost is probably spurious - but they are exempt from the freedom of information act so we'll never know. And while they are exempt from our democratically agreed laws, I am guilty of republicanism, punishable by life imprisonment. Fortunately in 2003 it was agreed by law lords that "this law does not prohibit peaceful printed advocacy of anti-monarchy sentiments" because of some pesky ideas about human rights. So, I think the monarchy is undemocratic, unaccountable, discriminates against religion, ethnicity and gender, demands deference where none is due, and devalues intellect and achievement. I am not suggesting we ban the monarchy, I am DEMANDING IT! We need a new meritocracy established. It is simple - whoever does the biggest sidehop is king. if you go back far enough I'm sure they'll be an inbred marriage in your family tree too HAHAHAHA Maybe not that far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yoyoyo Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) Well dude, go and have a chat with the Libyans about that. I don't like the royals because I would rather celebrate democracy and community rather than inherited privilege. I think the argument that they bring in as much money as they cost is probably spurious - but they are exempt from the freedom of information act so we'll never know. And while they are exempt from our democratically agreed laws, I am guilty of republicanism, punishable by life imprisonment. Fortunately in 2003 it was agreed by law lords that "this law does not prohibit peaceful printed advocacy of anti-monarchy sentiments" because of some pesky ideas about human rights. To be fair, Gaddafi is a dictator, the queen is (by law) not allowed to enter the house of commons, and all laws must be approved by the lords and finally her before it can be made law, so there's no problems there unlike Libya where what he says goes. Of course the government gives the royals the money to live so you could argue that point on government pressure, but we still have the Lords to stop that. Not sure how you meant the community bit so i may have misinterpreted it, but i think a large proportion of the nation, and others, all joined to celebrate yesterday, with scales you only really see at the World cup etc. Answering the poll, no i went out the night before and slept through it. I was fully in favour of it though, the street party i went to was great fun and you can party with people you never really see and everyone was really happy. Plus it was supposed to cost ~£20 million in tax payers money, but was estimated to bring in over £600m a lot of which was from foreigners travelling over. Win win really Edited April 30, 2011 by yoyoyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think the argument that they bring in as much money as they cost is probably spurious SRSLY? I'm with you on the principle of royalty - Very few people would believe that people ought to get priviledges based on their family circumstances. However I think your logic is flawed. I don't know how much it costs to run a Royal family these days, but I imagine it's something in the millions of pounds (£50 M/yr ? EDIT: YES). Compare that with the spending of £8.6 billion pounds of tourism spending for London last year. If only 10% of those visitors have come to see something royal-related (Tower bridge, bucks palace, Crown Jewels, Tower of London etc etc) then the Royals are quids in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Well dude, go and have a chat with the Libyans about that. I don't like the royals because I would rather celebrate democracy and community rather than inherited privilege. I think the argument that they bring in as much money as they cost is probably spurious - but they are exempt from the freedom of information act so we'll never know. And while they are exempt from our democratically agreed laws, I am guilty of republicanism, punishable by life imprisonment. Fortunately in 2003 it was agreed by law lords that "this law does not prohibit peaceful printed advocacy of anti-monarchy sentiments" because of some pesky ideas about human rights. So, I think the monarchy is undemocratic, unaccountable, discriminates against religion, ethnicity and gender, demands deference where none is due, and devalues intellect and achievement. I am not suggesting we ban the monarchy, I am DEMANDING IT! We need a new meritocracy established. It is simple - whoever does the biggest sidehop is king. HAHAHAHA Maybe not that far! Personly i think you should shutup. Without a royal family theres a good chance you wouldnt be here, even if you were, you probably wouldnt be speaking english, or even at a computer. if gadaffi and all these other "Kings (dictators)" are to go by. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 "Personly" I think you should read his post properly. He isn't saying we'd be better off if we'd never had a Royal Family, he's saying we'd be better off if we got rid of the one we have now. He's got a valid point, what do they actually do? (Quite a lot actually, but IMO not enough to justify the amount of money they cost). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) Found it funny when he had to force her ring on The Royal Familey use tax payers money for a lot of their shit which I don't think is fair. But then again they make so much money from tourism etc so it doesn't matter either way. We have a PM who makes all the decisions and the monarch at the time really has no power so it's all good. Incorrect, if the PM decides he is going to be a fascist and the government is not governing in the best interests of the people then the Queen is the ONLY one that can dissolve government also the Armed forces that are sworn to HER not the government. To the Royal haters, look into how sovereignty works you may be surprised to find that the Sovereign leader is very important and useful to the sovereigns (that is us by the way). Edited May 2, 2011 by Matt Vandart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Well that's just an extreme circumstance which'll never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsy Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Rather get rid of the EU than anything else. That's my oppinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Well that's just an extreme circumstance which'll never happen. That's what the Germans thought circa 1919. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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