1a2bcio8 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hello, I just watched and, now annoyingly, enjoyed the new Clean vid and it's caused me to feel pretty shitty because of an injury that's currently stopping me from riding. So I'd like to call on the mighty wisdom of trials-forum with regard to knowledge and/or experience about 'tennis elbow'. I've spent hours now reading up on this injury and there is often contradictory ideas about treatment. I have tried exercises and stretches and these often just cause more pain. The pain itself is not so much of a problem - I'd give it a 3/10 - but I'm concerned ignoring this pain and continuing to, say, ride could make it considerably worse and even permanent in some sense. Basically I'm considering risking it and want to know if other people have done this and had it go away anyway or, at least, not had it get any worse. It'd good be good to know about the specific effect of trials riding on it. I would really like to ride through the summer and have the winter off rather than vice versa. I'm not up for riding two winters in a row without an intervening summer. The winter just gone was hard enough to maintain. I'm also interested in knowing what were people's methods of recovery. Any 'quick' fixes? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) 'quick' fixes? Smack? Edited April 15, 2011 by kyddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted April 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Smack? Probably the best fix for not riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan97 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 tennis elbow (Tendinitis) is inflamination of a tendon in your elbow. The best way to treat it is by using an ice pack and dont ride until its fixed or it will only make it worse. Thats What I found out at school when I was learning about first aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintsauce Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Dave MacLeod is not only one of the world's best rock climbers but also a well researched scientist. Climbers are plagued by the same tennis/golfers elbow that riders suffer from and he has some fantastic insights and suggestions. I'd recommend searching out his articles on the subject via google and that this article may be a good starting point. http://onlineclimbingcoach.blogspot.com/search/label/tennis%20elbow Hope it helps Peace Barlow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) I got it too Ben, if you look here: you can see I have a tennis elbow strap on this thing puts light pressure on the tendon and aids recovery. boshing 3 ibuprofen a day also helps to reduce the swelling in this tendon. I have had it 6mnths at least. This may be for a number of reasons: I have kept riding. I cannot let on that I have tennis elbow with my work or I will get no work so I cannot wear this all the time. My mouse and laptop exacerbate the problem. I just cannot stop doing stuff. The doctor gave me a cream to rub into the effected area, which helps also, but I cannot use this when I am working or I will get punted for H&S policy reasons. When I do get to use it regularly it works very well. It would be important to find out exactly how you have created this strain injury in order to not make it worse and to stop it happening again. I think mine is a combination of hacksawing for 1hr with literally no break that started it and my Vee brake and the shit bars I had at the time (tensile 9D's) making it worse all these things coincide with my problem starting. I have to say in the early days it was absolute agony and stiff as f**k after a ride but I can get on alright and ignore it. this may be a stupid thing to do. If you want a quick fix you can have a steroid injection in the offending place but there are risks with that (which I am not aware of). I am pretty much at that stage and am seeing the dude on Tuesday so I can tell you what happens. Edited April 15, 2011 by Matt Vandart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Don't have any experience with this in particular myself, but for every tendon/ligament problem I've had Ibuprofen gel/cream stuff has worked way better than in tablet form. Don't know if that's just a placebo effect because I think I'm targetting it more or something, but it seemed to be more effective. EDIT: Oh, and glad you liked it Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) That was exactly the sort of thing I was after. Thank you very much, Matt. I'm hoping though that I don't have tendinosis because if I do that means I will almost certainly need many months off of riding most other sports. If I do have it though this artical has made me feel more confident about the method of dealing with it. Funnily enough, my doctor gave me the recovery time of tendinosis with the diagnosis of tendinitis. I actually spoke to my ex today, who's a physio, and she thinks that my symptoms are more likely to be tendinitis which is a f**king relief; to be perfectly honest. Although I possibly shouldn't get my hopes up too much just yet in case she ends up being wrong... Matt, you should try to find out if you're actually suffering from tendinosis which is what chronic tennis elbow usually tends to be. It's something you have to be very careful about and which changes your treatment if you have it. Treating either tendinitis or tendinosis as the other can cause more harm than good... For instance, nsaid's like ibuprofen restricts blood flow and one of the probelems with tendinosis healing is already a problem of blood flow. The symptoms are very similar though. Apparantly it's common for doctors to misdiagnose it because it's a more recent understanding that hasn't been caught up with yet. Check out tendinosis.org Thanks for replying and I'll get back to your FB message soon Whatever works eh? I'm hoping that anti-inflammatories are what I'm after though otherwise I'm gonng be off the bike for some time. Sorry I haven't replied in your vid thread yet. Watched it this morning then just felt totally gutted I couldn't ride Edited April 16, 2011 by Ben Rowlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I've had a similar problem for about 6 months and thought it was 'tennis elbow'. After finally getting fed up with it I went to a physio who has diagonsed it as nerve damage coming from a previous neck injury. Apparently there is a nerve cluster in the elbow which can become inflammed and caused similar symptoms. I've tried ibruprofen which dosen't seem to help which would indicate my injury is not muscular (tendons or ligaments) so maybe the physio is right. I am not entirely convinced myself and am still in early stages of excercises. It is agony after every ride but I find it difficult to rest with spring here. Hope your elbow gets better, it sucks being injured!. If your not entirely sure get a second opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon W Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 ive got a similar thing in my knee, tendonitus, riding and gym makes it worse but i cant stop deep heat cream works well along with a few ibuprofen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan-Walker Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I had this about a year ago now. Incedibly annoying i know! I stopped riding for a week, was still there after. I then left it for another 3 weeks before attempting to ride again, during that three weeks i tryed using deep heat, but realised if its inflamed i need to cool it so used an ice pack, neither worked. The last two weeks i just drank an abundant amount of green tea and fresh ginger tea, both are anti inflammatory, ginger tea is the better of the two, and all was good. Just be patient and rest it, or it will never go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Rest is the only way to sort it long term, try moving bars and levers about, I used to get it when I was doing alot in the gym, mine was really bad is I rode to soon after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danfoss - BANNED Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I got the golfers elbow after a dislocation of the elbow years ago. I get given 1200mg ibrofen when it plays up, freezing gel. I found when its bent it hurts more so i was given a split to were keeping it straight. I use it at night and did a week soild with it. Helped but no fix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAP Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Be very careful with tendon injuries to the elbow. Previous to taking up trials in the last year. I spent the last 22 years climbing. Sport climbing and bouldering mainly, all over the world. I spent hours and hours training to get to climb harder and harder moves. Climbing came before everything. Then..... I got tennis elbow, (an injury was inevitable at some point) but i tried to climb through it, bracing and taping it. The outcome of this was tendon damage that finished me as a climber. I have never climbed since and lost touch with most of my climbing mates. PM me and I will advise you as best as i can. Also as someone has previously mentioned take a look at Dave Macleod's site http://davemacleod.blogspot.com/ he is really knowledgeable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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