dave33 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Are you interested in real trials riders or just people who ride street? When I say real trials I would say these are riders who compete in the sport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 take your blinkers off would you? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 What do you class your self as Ali ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 my job description is "Trials rider", so I guess that. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) Are you interested in real trials riders or just people who ride street? When I say real trials I would say these are riders who compete in the sport! He probably doesn't want hours of footage of men in tights and funny shoes. See, being narrow minded works both ways. Edited April 11, 2011 by Matthew62 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Oh here we go the "street isnt proper trials arguement" will the "24" riders should just buy a bmx" comment appear too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Shortage Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Y DNT U ALL STOP ARGYOOING AN GO N RYD UR BYKZ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I'm just laughing at the reactions, I'm not narrow minded, I was expecting Ali to say performer/entertainer or some thing along those lines, after all that's what he does! Gets paid to entertain people !! I'd say Ben Savage if you wanted to capture the athlete/rider aspect of it all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I'm just laughing at the reactions, I'm not narrow minded, I was expecting Ali to say performer/entertainer or some thing along those lines, after all that's what he does! Gets paid to entertain people !! I'd say Ben Savage if you wanted to capture the athlete/rider aspect of it all Ok, so people who ride comps are "real" riders, comps happen a few times a year, what are they 95% of the time when there isn't a comp? What about 95% of the riders in the country who don't ride comps, are they not "real" riders? Are you saying Demo riders and street riders are putting in less effort? I make a living by riding my trials bike, I did not when I was riding comps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Its because you dont measure your sidehops ali... Dave you narrow minded douche are you genuinely trying to say that Ali is not an athlete? Hes one of the few riders who manages to compete, win, and have fun at the same time. He takes his riding just as seriously as everybody else. and over the years has become one of the uks best riders. Your like a 1950s male who stuck in his ways and disregards change. (rimming over/) Edited April 12, 2011 by Davetrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Lol ok yea that's right! What ever you say! That's like saying a kid who kicks a ball against a wall is a real footbal player like of man u team! Comps are pretty much every week in the season ? I'd say you lot are narrow minded Any way pointless arguing about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 So by your logic, only comp riders are trials riders, the rest of us are just guys with weird bikes. That makes virtually none of us on this forum trials riders. Unfortunately it depends on your definition of the sport. Football, is a team sport where people form teams and attempt to score by putting the ball in the other team's net. Trials is riding a bike over obstacles. So no, a kid kicking a ball against a wall isn't football, but anyone who rides their bike over something is technically doing trials, just like when you and your mates do 3 a side kicking a ball between piles of jackets it's technically football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Any way pointless arguing about it It is when you're losing. Another up for Chris Ackrigg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Lol ok yea that's right! What ever you say! That's like saying a kid who kicks a ball against a wall is a real footbal player like of man u team! Comps are pretty much every week in the season ? I'd say you lot are narrow minded Any way pointless arguing about it so I am assuming you think you are a "real" trials rider then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 What if most of Man United's team didn't show up so the kid kicking a ball against his wall got a place in the first team? I imagine for a lot of comp riders at the highest level being filmed extensively over the weekend of a comp might be a bit risky. Bearing in mind I've personally seen people riding sections the day before comps, seen people's parents modifying sections, seen people 5 but get away with it, seen people ride outside markers and get away with it - if you were getting watched the whole comp I'd imagine you're going to be a lot more likely to get spotted doing that, and then having a fuss kicked up about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 That's like saying a kid who kicks a ball against a wall is a real footbal player like of man u team! Define being a 'real footballer'... Kids going out for a kickabout is 'playing football' (practising techniques etc.) and if they also play for a team (at any level) they're still playing football, with a competitive element. Exactly the same with trials really, I go out 'for a bounce' just messing about and practising techniques, I used to compete (don't anymore) but I still call myself a trials rider, what else could I be bouncing around on a silly low geared bike?! Your (lack of) logic is really quite amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Mallinson Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Man U players aren't footballers anyway they are scum . But you cannot say that people like Ali or anyone else who rides street aren't proper Trials riders its just dumb. Edited April 12, 2011 by Milo123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Ali I really don't think I'm a real trials rider, I do how never think people like Ben Savage is as I said before And as for demo ridding no I don't think you put 100 percent of effort in! The object of trials is getting over/up/ down an obstacle or section without putting your foot down ?? Please tell me I'm wrong! No points for style! Or one handers, or rolling down it backwards on ur front wheel Yes mark I agree but no point cheating your self?? Oh course some one who riders like Ali is very talented no taking that away from him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Comp Trials -> Comp Trials Riders Street Trials -> Street Trials Riders Natural Trials -> Natural Trials Riders TGS Trials -> TGS Trials Riders The thing they have in common? They are all Trials Riders and all those forms of riding are forms of trials. Are you seriously saying people like Ali and Ashton and the like don't put 100% effort into what they do when they're doing it? It's their livelihood, the way they make their living. Of course they do it as best they can. Edited April 12, 2011 by JD™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 So how can you push your limits while doing a demo at the risk of crashing and making a fool of yourself? Does spending all day on TRIALS foum make you a TRIALS rider ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 The object of trials is getting over/up/ down an obstacle or section without putting your foot down ?? Yes... So someone who gets up/over/down an obstacle or section without putting a foot down but with added style, throwing in an X-up or doing a 360 out (while on a trials bike) isn't riding trials? Mmmkay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 If every trials rider was like you, I would not call myself a trials rider, I'd rather associate with people that don't compete and actually have fun and experiment a bit, rather then drink protein, wear lycra all round and critise people that are actually pushing the sport. On topic though, what about something on Tartybikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Dave, saying I don't put 100% into my demos without even watching one is pretty outrageous! Since doing shows I have pushed myself, I'll do stuff in shows I am scared of doing and wouldn't do normally (backflips off the 1ft kicker ramp, 11ft drops, balance beams, 360 drops and tyre taps off some of the higher boxes) You know riders were styling things up back in the 90s? Back when they had bikes that were more than just expensive pogosticks, back when Akkers used to win the british champs on a bike that these days would be considered a pure street bike. He won comps AND made it look good. If I now entered a comp and manualed in sections, did x-ups and spins, would I then be a "real" trials rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Yes Adam now we are getting some where! So why not a mix of how different styles of riders go about things! Feel free to quote out where anyone said a mix wouldn't be a great idea? Only person not 'getting anywhere' here is you, with your blinkered comment of what is or isn't 'real' trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Shortage Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Y'see, this is why Danny Mac isn't as popular as, y'know. That guy who does comps. If only he did real trials. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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