dirt jumper jake Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 yeah +1 from me, Lgm seem to be very inconsistent for me but work for lots of other people though. I would honestly try HSB YELLOWS with a fresh medium sharp grind. you'll be impressed. Yeah my LGMs were all over the place I really am impressed with the cousts on a dead grind at the moment, im gonna probably put a fresh harsh one on tomorrow, but as soons as these cousts wear down yellows will probably be my next choice to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Is it possible that certain brake pad compounds work better with plastic backings, as opposed to alu cnc backings depending on the hardness, or softness of the actual brake compound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Is it possible that certain brake pad compounds work better with plastic backings, as opposed to alu cnc backings depending on the hardness, or softness of the actual brake compound? My theory too.... certain pads work better when they're worn down too. It cyhanges the amount the pad material can deform I reckon. Real cousts are utter shite when worn down past half life... whereas Koxx browns are great right up until they hit the backing. ( my own findings... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alle.C Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 how to get of the pad material from the plastic backings, if you want to do this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 pop em in the oven for a few minutes to soften the glue then whip off the pad material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alle.C Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 how warm should it be in the owen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Pads in, turn oven on to 160ish, by the time it's up to temperature or after 5 minutes or so they should be good to go. Just check them every few minutes and you'll be fine though - remember they'll get hot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mods Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 tnn lgms have been very inconsistant for me also, i wont be using them again, i'll go to hsb yellows next i think. Will they fit in my cnc tnn backings if i just buy refills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Should do I reckon, I'm using LGM's on the back of my stock and HS yellows up front on a smooth rim. The heatsinks have always been awesome but thought I'd try the TNN's, they were pretty good on a fresh grind but now it's dulled a bit they're losing hold. I got some joypads off Stan Shaw so gonna give them a try next but if I have no luck I'll be back to the yellows front and rear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary-mac Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) Should do I reckon, I'm using LGM's on the back of my stock and HS yellows up front on a smooth rim. The heatsinks have always been awesome but thought I'd try the TNN's, they were pretty good on a fresh grind but now it's dulled a bit they're losing hold. I got some joypads off Stan Shaw so gonna give them a try next but if I have no luck I'll be back to the yellows front and rear! CNC yellows can't fault them in any condition. they don't kill the grind unlike other pads also, its a win win situation. Edited March 26, 2011 by gary-mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Manning Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I've recieved my Coust pads in plastic backings from Trialprod. Will be fitting them later and hopefully riding this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Same got mine yesterday, fitted. Can't ride in anger for a few weeks, bit straight from the off bite is incredible and the noise (not really important) is amazing. It's probably all down to the plastic backings offering a little more flex, even if they are a little darker in colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Manning Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Same got mine yesterday, fitted. Can't ride in anger for a few weeks, bit straight from the off bite is incredible and the noise (not really important) is amazing. It's probably all down to the plastic backings offering a little more flex, even if they are a little darker in colour. Sounds good, looking forward to fitting mine later. Did you do a fresh grind before fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Sounds good, looking forward to fitting mine later. Did you do a fresh grind before fitting? I had a grind that was only a few rides old, so pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary-mac Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Good good boys hope you enjoy them, i would say the only reason there slighty darker is due to the black backings, when there out i compared the two up to the a light, both identicle. already sold my other new set of coust in plastic backings as i just don't rate them when it comes to the holding power on the rear, yet the bite is awesome. Back with a new set of hsb cnc yellows, faultless and exsteamly powerful!! try a set when the cousts run out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Did you try them in the plastic backings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary-mac Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Did you try them in the plastic backings? na i didn't bother in the end as it would of been awaste of money trying them to just take them of with the same outcome. very good pad with great bite and okish hold. was out for 3hours tonight with cnc yellows and its made my mind up quite easy, brake performance is just outstanding, hold is awesome and the bite is on another planet. Found the pad and set up that suits me and works. Trialtech sl rim, really sharp medium grind, hsb cnc yellows. got my mate on to hsb yellow pads and set up the same as mine apart from he has the koxxhydroxx frame, Same again the brake performance is unreal with its sheer power in dry/wet conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Found the pad and set up that suits me and works. Trialtech sl rim, really sharp medium grind, hsb cnc yellows. How are you finding the grind life on the trialtech rim with the yellows? Just reground both of mine (dx32/HSB yellows rear and mavic xc717/coustink vees front) and phenomenal braking has returned; particularly like the front coust vee, it has reasonable modulation and feathers well but will bite and hold like a bitch with a decent squeeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary-mac Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 How are you finding the grind life on the trialtech rim with the yellows? Just reground both of mine (dx32/HSB yellows rear and mavic xc717/coustink vees front) and phenomenal braking has returned; particularly like the front coust vee, it has reasonable modulation and feathers well but will bite and hold like a bitch with a decent squeeze. grind lasts for ages on the sl rim with hsb yellows!! not heard many updates of the boys who are trying these, I DIDN'T feel or see any difference with the 2 cousts pads. yellow wipes the floor with them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I've just ditched my LGM's this morning and stuck some yellow material in the TNN backings and all of a sudden my back brake holds! Just need to glue them in properly and I shall be back out riding again, may try some cousts on the front as currently I'm running yellows on a smooth trialtech rim and in the dry there's no give in it whatsoever, you feather the front brake and it is on! Will have to grind the rim ready for the comps to start in a couple of weeks as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Looks like Steve is going to be making a healthy profit from the sales of Yellows this year! Nearly everyone we ride with now has or are going to run heatsink CNC yellows, and from looking over the forum, are extremely popular! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostiantyn Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Tip for those, with CNC backings: You can buy just compound directly from Michel. It costed me nearly 11 euro per piece 120*10*10mm (for 2 pads)+ 3 euro postage to Ukraine (up to 5 pieces) (I guess to UK the same price). You can pay through paypal and contact him buy e-mail. Believe it would be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyman Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 PM me with the email adress please! Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostiantyn Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 PM me with the email adress please! Thanks a lot. Web site of Gilles Coustellier They have got nice shoes. I think Davos sole and love to trial are the main components))) mail: michel.coustellier@voila.fr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Manning Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I guess I should write something about my coust pads that I purchased from TrialProd. I have had them on for over a week now, and have ridden in total 5 days. To start with they sounded great, but felt like they needed a bedding in period. Once I had ridden for a short period, the pads seemed to improve a lot, but slipped abit. As I hadn't done a fresh grind, I thought I would to give theses pads a chance. With the new grind (not very harsh) I tried again, pads seemed to need bedding in slightly, but performed so much better. They were biting really well as soon as I fitted them, the hold just seemed a bit iffy. The more I rode, the better pads seemed to get, They still slip very slightly, but only when you try and make it slip. I have been very impressed with these pads. There a few bad points. Due to there being so much material I had to run Tensile offset mounts as the pads wouldn't fit my bike. Once the pads had worn down a bit, I could re install my standard Magura 4 bolt clamps. The next bad point is pad wear, they seem to have worn down quite quickly. I am a little concerned that I may need to replace them rather soon. Overall I am very impressed with the pads. My set up is: Magura HS33 2005, water bled Zoo Piranha frame 99mm brake width Koxx Try-all rim 46mm rim Trialtech 4 bolt booster Tensile 4 bolt offset brake clamps (due to lots of pad material) Magura 4 bolt brake clamps (used after the pads had warned down). Hope this helps some people out with an idea about theses pads. Obviously brake performance depends on the brake, frame and wheel set up. I am considering Heatsink Yellows as everyone is raving about them, see how they compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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