Laurence--Trials Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 http://www.tribalzine.com/?Fourche-Try-All-Karbon-Koncept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 They've been "Coming soon..." for a pretty long time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 http://www.tribalzine.com/?Fourche-Try-All-Karbon-Koncept If they do these in 20", i will definately buy some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 the 4 bolt mounts on these forks scare me, unless they have actually used the material to it's full potential and ramped up the thickness where 4 bolt forks always snap then I can't see them lasting long. This would definitely be a fork that could benefit from having vee mounts on, stronger and a lighter more powerful brake, win win win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Ali how would it make v-brakes more powerful? less flex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 the forks wouldn't make vee brakes more powerful, they just are generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Not a fan of Try-All forks in general. I have found the alu version flexy, and snap happy. Steerer tube and fork legs need to be thicker. Would be interesting to see how the 'Karbon Koncept' forks turn out, but I know I wont be buying some. 4-bolt option does sound scary. Can see them breaking quite quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 the 4 bolt mounts on these forks scare me, unless they have actually used the material to it's full potential and ramped up the thickness where 4 bolt forks always snap then I can't see them lasting long. If the designer has any experience with carbon then it will be reinforced appropriately in that area, it's so simple to do with a carbon lay up that it'd be mental not to do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Any guess on the price of them lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I just hate the use of Ks instead of Cs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sappu Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I'm afraid to think of the price, but they look super. The weight will be . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Will be interesting to see if these babies can last a whole comp season of taps, hooks, and frenchies with the odd occasional fail here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Will be interesting to see if these babies can last a whole comp season of taps, hooks, and frenchies with the odd occasional fail here and there. Was chatting to Joe Seddon the other week and these forks came up, they aren't lasting too long at the moment, but then at sub 500 grams i'm not surprised! But if they are that weight they've got a bit to play with to sort them out. Will be interesting to see the final production model and how they last. I'd give them one ride on the front of Andrei Burton's bike! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_ruskin Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Surely as soon as you got even the smallest amount of scratches on them they would become a lot weaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Was chatting to Joe Seddon the other week and these forks came up, they aren't lasting too long at the moment, but then at sub 500 grams i'm not surprised! But if they are that weight they've got a bit to play with to sort them out. Will be interesting to see the final production model and how they last. I'd give them one ride on the front of Andrei Burton's bike! Really, they should have designed them like those custom Coustellier carbon forks that Danny Butler has been running for absolutely ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Really, they should have designed them like those custom Coustellier carbon forks that Danny Butler has been running for absolutely ages. Why? they were horrifically expensive to make and were disc only. The Koxx forks are 4 bolt specific and I can't see how they could make the forks Danny used to work with maggys without seriously mods and things have moved on with carbon manufacturing since then. I'm sure with the right design they'll sort the issues, I mean that's the point in prototypes, to trial a design, see it's short comings and engineer them out of the next proto until they're worthy of production. Light one one off forks are slightly different to something that's going to be produced on a comparatively large scale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Danny's forks also weighed over 1kg and today's modern rider arn't strong enough to lift that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Danny's forks also weighed over 1kg and today's modern rider arn't strong enough to lift that. LOL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Danny's forks also weighed over 1kg and today's modern rider arn't strong enough to lift that. Ahhhhhhhahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Why? they were horrifically expensive to make and were disc only. The Koxx forks are 4 bolt specific and I can't see how they could make the forks Danny used to work with maggys without seriously mods and things have moved on with carbon manufacturing since then. I'm sure with the right design they'll sort the issues, I mean that's the point in prototypes, to trial a design, see it's short comings and engineer them out of the next proto until they're worthy of production. Light one one off forks are slightly different to something that's going to be produced on a comparatively large scale. That was good 5-6 years ago when those forks appeared on the scene, so it wouldn't be terribly difficult to make a cost effective 4-bolt design using todays technological advancements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) That was good 5-6 years ago when those forks appeared on the scene, so it wouldn't be terribly difficult to make a cost effective 4-bolt design using todays technological advancements. Most likely the reason why Koxx have chosen the design and manufacturing method they have, it's a technological advancement over Danny's forks.... simpler to integrate 4 bolt mounts and take advantage of the new manufacturing techniques, producing a lighter and (potentially) lower cost fork. What you were suggesting was that they use an old out dated method that was most likely chosen as it was the only one available/feasible for extremely low production numbers. Plus putting a "cost effective" four bolt mount on an "inferior" (Ali has already said Danny's forks weighed circa twice as much as the Koxx protos) that was economical to produce wouldn't be a very cost effective thing to do.... Your argument was just weak/bollocks, why take something old and tweak it with modern technology so it "just" works when Koxx are trying to produce something that is up to date, superior(?) and more than likely cheaper (wouldn't be worth them producing it if they couldn't sell it)? Edited March 16, 2011 by craigjames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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