Muel Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) You realise being a senior isn't just about being on the forum for a long time, right? No it should also be about being helpful and having a laugh as well, all of the names I gave are examples of that IMO. And you also realise that there has to be decent new members who have signed up and then only posted a few times and have remained unnoticed, then there will be other people that have signed up and not bothered posting at all because they see that generally the promotion from pre members to members is slow... Yes having the new members like it is at the moment keeps the forum 'tidy' but it also means there are hardly any new people posting on the forum. There are currently 16,000 pre members, hardly any of them are active and I would say that since new members chat started hardly anyone has been promoted to members (In comparison to the 16,000 that have joined). Tom, out of interest do you actually know how many people have been moved from pre members to full members? A change needs to happen, the forum has become stale and boring with the same old groups of mates posting. From an outsiders point of view this forum must be similar to those strange village pubs that are full of locals! Most of them are either dead accounts or tp to scratch for validation though. I used to vote people up to validate them loads of times when that system was in place, or report them when I used to ride and actually looked in NMC for trials stuff to talk about. Seriously? It took me about 5 years to post 1000 times! Edit: Ooh, this was my 4,999th post... what drivel shall I post for my 5,000th? You cut off the important bit, "like the OCUK forum", thems their rules, just making an example. I've done 15,005 posts in just over 4 years, mind you when I was at college I spent most of my days refreshing the latest posts list. Edited March 4, 2011 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 You cut off the important bit, "like the OCUK forum", thems their rules, just making an example. That's only because I have no idea what the OCUK forum is... Woo, 5000 posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Most of them are either dead accounts or tp to scratch for validation though. I used to vote people up to validate them loads of times when that system was in place, or report them when I used to ride and actually looked in NMC for trials stuff to talk about.Why are they dead accounts? How are new members meant to get voted for validation when most full members avoid NMC like the plague? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I always give nmc a scan as I know how frustrating it can be for some, and like it's been said before a lot of people sign up to get into trials but never bother as all there questions and knowledge either gets mocked our ignored. Everyone deserves a chance as a full member and I reckon the new system will aid this, and if some aren't suitable theres an easy way to deal with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I thought new members couldn't sell straight away? Theres someones first post in for sale selling their pitbull?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I don't think Tom has set up any of the groups, sin bin vote functions etc so I guess they haven't been restricted to post in forsale either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 My post from SM chat, I've been thinking about this a fair bit, here it is: The reality is people get scammed by long term members too. I plan on putting a big f**k off banner above any posts made by new members in FS pointing out that this is a new member and should be treated with maximum caution (even more than when dealing with full members) when making a trade. This puts the onus (right word?) on both the seller (doing their best to prove their good intentions) and the buyer. Blocking new members from FS isn't an actual or fair solution in my opinion. A good example is the post you were talking about isitafox, its the guys first post, he's put pics up and even put his phone number on there. I think I'd trust him more than most members with 50 posts, so why restrict him? Fair enough, he may have only come to sell something, but there's a chance he'll make the odd reply here and there and become a full time member. Common sense is required when dealing with new members, something that no amount of rules or restrictions is going to give people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Sounds fair enough to me, suppose it would be helpful to some people if they used to be in trials and want to get rid of their stuff. Having to sign up and show some interest in a sport theyve given up on just to get rid of the built they no longer want would be a pain in the arse, especially when them being able to sell straight off and a new member being able to buy straight off is killing 2 birds! Good idea bout the banner though so people who do go for something can't make a complaint about new members at a later date as the risk is all their own choice. Just thought I'd better double check he hadn't slipped through the net though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I think that that 'New Members' should only be allowed to post in a 'New Members' section for 24 hours. That would help eradicate spamming. Otherwise you'd get it all over the forum, which would become infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Dunno about the rest of you, but I think it's working really well with NM's in with us - I've not noticed a huge influx of idiots taking over any particular areas of the site. At first I was very sceptical about letting them roam amongst full members but it doesn't actually seem to be that bad at all. Good choice Tom, I'm happy to admit I was wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Plus. One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) Alright this is getting stupid, maybe if you tried putting a captcha in for when you join the site. Stop all the spam bot's right? EDIT: You already do I'm mindblown... Edited March 14, 2011 by Jamie_Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 They aren't spam bots they're real people meaning it's impossible to have any automated system in place to stop them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted March 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I've installed an addon that checks all new registrations against the stopforumspam.com database. http://www.stopforumspam.com/daily Seems spammers are reported very regularly, so we'll see how it goes... (There are looooooads of reports of increased spam activity since Feb 2011 for lots of other forums, so we're not the only ones) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/163977-any-body-want-a-signature-making/page__view__findpost__p__2283195 It seems the text for someone in the 'new member' group outlining what can go in a sig is different to that of a member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/163977-any-body-want-a-signature-making/page__view__findpost__p__2283195 It seems the text for someone in the 'new member' group outlining what can go in a sig is different to that of a member. To be fair, mine says I can have 1 pic too. I thought it was pretty odd when I noticed the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 That's even more weird, 'cause us two are in the same member group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 I lie, it's on 0 now. Around 80% sure it was on 1 the other day when I removed my sig though. Maybe I'm getting confused by the URL allowance though. I've spent too long staring at numbers today and I can't remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) Hm. Edited July 14, 2020 by The Duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Welcome back Max I thought there'd be an influx of crap posts and spam, but I happy to say there hasn't been anywhere near as much as I expected. If anything it's actually nice not to see a million posts about validation every day. If people used the search a bit more then there'd be less duplication, but then again the forum would be dead of new material because the vast majority of trials questions have been asked and answered already here. Overall it's been a big success I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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