l33th3tr33 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 A friend of mine thinks he can make carbon levers etc... I'm going to have one made for my hope to test it out and whatnot to make sure they're up to scratch before any are sold if it gets that far. and I'll put some pics up too. I'm sure there would'nt be any problems with making an hs33 lever either. While he's at it I'll get him to make me some bar mount brakets for the hope, a stem bracket and some snail cams to see what's what. So... If they're cheap enough would anyone interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 If they're a decent quality and the right price definately! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 If they're a decent quality and the right price definately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Unless he's doing it at his workplace on the sly then he's going to be charging a hell of a lot for the low number of units he'll be doing surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33th3tr33 Posted February 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Unless he's doing it at his workplace on the sly then he's going to be charging a hell of a lot for the low number of units he'll be doing surely? Nope, he's got all his machines and tools at home. What would be an expected price (or what you would pay) for one that will hold a normal brass barrel instead of having to buy a different one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza1 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) What's a stem bracket? Just a stem If so I'd be up for a custom made carbon stem pay around £40 for one Edited February 26, 2011 by onza1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33th3tr33 Posted February 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 What's a stem bracket? Just a stem If so I'd be up for a custom made carbon stem pay around £40 for one The bracket that holds the bars in the stem, and I don't think carbon would be suitable for a stem, maybe the reason no carbon stems are available for the trials market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 The bracket that holds the bars in the stem, and I don't think carbon would be suitable for a stem, maybe the reason no carbon stems are available for the trials market. Contrary to popular belief, carbon is infact very strong. Vincent hermance is using some proto Tryall carbon forks on his sky2, & Dmr team rider sam reynolds is using carbon rims on his jump bike, so cant be too shabby.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Some carbon bar end plugs would be cool. The kind where you screw it tight on. I would probably be interested in lever's as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 What's a stem bracket? Just a stem If so I'd be up for a custom made carbon stem pay around £40 for one £40 for anything fully carbon is cheap, I'd expect to be paying much more than £40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 The bracket that holds the bars in the stem, and I don't think carbon would be suitable for a stem, maybe the reason no carbon stems are available for the trials market. But it's okay for handlebars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Carbon 8 finger hs33 lever. For even more leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Nope, he's got all his machines and tools at home. Can you share the process he's going to be using? I honestly think he's going to struggle to make any money at the prices people in trials will be prepared to pay. If he's doing it as a learning exercise then fair enough, taking requests is probably a good way to test different shapes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manus-Rider Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Some carbon bar end plugs would be cool. The kind where you screw it tight on. I would probably be interested in lever's as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) CalopS: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RS-P-Carbon-Fibre-Bar-End-Plugs-Road-Bikes-4-2g-/190457747589?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c582a9885 ? Edited February 27, 2011 by dirt jumper jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33th3tr33 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 But it's okay for handlebars? Fair play, but my reason for saying that was the onza carbon bars are outer carbon construction as opposed to full carbon, and after having a quick look on tarty have realised that the higher range of carbon bars are fully carbon instead. As for stems, I haven't seen a full carbon one released yet so just presumed that companies haven't found a way of making a carbon constructed stem strong enough. Does anyone have more expierience with carbon? And would anyone have any tips with trying out making a carbon stem? Carbon 8 finger hs33 lever. For even more leverage. If you want a longer hs33 lever then just say. I'm sure something could be worked out, maybe get one made for you to be a test pilot... Can you share the process he's going to be using? I honestly think he's going to struggle to make any money at the prices people in trials will be prepared to pay. If he's doing it as a learning exercise then fair enough, taking requests is probably a good way to test different shapes etc. Yeah, it's more a learning experience, using different shapes, sizes etc... He's not doing it to make a quick buck, he just offered to make me up some stuff in exchange for testing (and obviously a bit of cash), so I'll be testing parts out for a while to see if they're any good. Does anyone have any arguments as to why snail cams wouldn't be suitable in carbon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Fair play, but my reason for saying that was the onza carbon bars are outer carbon construction as opposed to full carbon, and after having a quick look on tarty have realised that the higher range of carbon bars are fully carbon instead. As for stems, I haven't seen a full carbon one released yet so just presumed that companies haven't found a way of making a carbon constructed stem strong enough. Does anyone have more expierience with carbon? And would anyone have any tips with trying out making a carbon stem? If you want a longer hs33 lever then just say. I'm sure something could be worked out, maybe get one made for you to be a test pilot... Yeah, it's more a learning experience, using different shapes, sizes etc... He's not doing it to make a quick buck, he just offered to make me up some stuff in exchange for testing (and obviously a bit of cash), so I'll be testing parts out for a while to see if they're any good. Does anyone have any arguments as to why snail cams wouldn't be suitable in carbon? Id be willing to test any carbon parts & look at some FSA & Bontrager XC stuff, they seem to be doing alot of carbon these days. White/Whyte (spelling?) brothers have done a few carbon forks aswell as pace doing them aswell. probably worth a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33th3tr33 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Id be willing to test any carbon parts & look at some FSA & Bontrager XC stuff, they seem to be doing alot of carbon these days. White/Whyte (spelling?) brothers have done a few carbon forks aswell as pace doing them aswell. probably worth a look Well obviously I can't chuck out loads of test stuff as matey will only be making a few parts to see if they're any good before making more. But saying that, anyone who rides quite often would be perfect to test parts as I'm not riding at the moment due to building a bike up, only needing a rear wheel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 CalopS: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RS-P-Carbon-Fibre-Bar-End-Plugs-Road-Bikes-4-2g-/190457747589?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c582a9885 ? I would be too worried about them falling out. I only use the screw tight ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Willing to test out anything I suppose I'm nice and bad so get a good range of abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33th3tr33 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I'll need to borrow a couple different lever blades for moulding, More details here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Beach Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) CalopS: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RS-P-Carbon-Fibre-Bar-End-Plugs-Road-Bikes-4-2g-/190457747589?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c582a9885 ? 'Not suitable for MTB handlebars, because of the different bar diameter' Would love some of them to put on my XC bike. If the price was right, I would probally buy a 4 finger 2011 HS11/33 lever blade. EDIT: Thats if your mate made them Edited February 27, 2011 by Jake Beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33th3tr33 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 'Not suitable for MTB handlebars, because of the different bar diameter' Would love some of them to put on my XC bike. If the price was right, I would probally buy a 4 finger 2011 HS11/33 lever blade. EDIT: Thats if your mate made them From what I recall, you can't replace the levers on new maggies. That or it's a bugger to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Beach Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 From what I recall, you can't replace the levers on new maggies. That or it's a bugger to replace. Ahh, damn! Want a 4 finger blade for my HS33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Fair play, but my reason for saying that was the onza carbon bars are outer carbon construction as opposed to full carbon, and after having a quick look on tarty have realised that the higher range of carbon bars are fully carbon instead. As for stems, I haven't seen a full carbon one released yet so just presumed that companies haven't found a way of making a carbon constructed stem strong enough. Does anyone have more expierience with carbon? And would anyone have any tips with trying out making a carbon stem? The reason there are no stems built for heavy use is that there are a lot of issues with getting the fibres aligned in ways which are strong and durable at the steerer and faceplate ends. Handlebars are becoming more common in all mountain, downhill and trials since a simple tube with a few bends is simple to produce and quality control. Stems are on a whole other level due to the complex geometry around the steerer and faceplate and the requirement for hardware to screw into them. I'd give stems a miss if I were him, there's not much weight to be saved there anyway. Yeah, it's more a learning experience, using different shapes, sizes etc... He's not doing it to make a quick buck, he just offered to make me up some stuff in exchange for testing (and obviously a bit of cash), so I'll be testing parts out for a while to see if they're any good. What sort of moulds is he producing for this? Is he using wet lay up, pre-preg or some sort of infusion? Does anyone have any arguments as to why snail cams wouldn't be suitable in carbon? I imagine they would delaminate at the edges pretty severely if used for snail cams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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