Josh - Sarge Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hi there, I am learning to ride street trials and I have spent, who knows how many hours learning to trackstand. Well I have nailed the trackstand, I can wheelie whilst pedaling and can just about backwheel hop most times, but i cannot manual. I can pull up my bike in order to bunny hop etc. but when i try to manual my bike seems so long. Im unable to pull the front wheel up, however far back I shift my weight. I a ride 26 inch diamondback. Should I be pedaling into the manual, then roll freely or am I doing something wrong???? Please help Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 How tall are you? If you're comfortable with your bike you shouldn't have problems lifting the front end up without pedaling. Thought about keeping your arse out, it really helps when you're trying to get the weight behind the bike so the front comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 BAM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsIsHard Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Watch some videos on how to do it, some can be helpful some just show you a video of them doing a manual, which isnt! here's one to get you going, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhGy5OHa5bk hope i helped Edit: beaten to it, better video aswell.. Damn! Edited February 23, 2011 by TrialsIsHard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetec S Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 what size frame? I can't manual 20" 1045mm wheelbase for anything... 1010mm is ok though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 if i remember rightly you have quite a long frame so it not going to be easy to learn manuals on. the best thing i can say is try not to lift the front up, instead try to push the back through with your legs while keeping your bum low and your arms straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladie Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Another factor that could be troubling you is that your bike weighs a tonne! A lighter front end would help alot i think, but also i find it very hard to manual my Onza, but can manual my bmx for at least 100 meters. I think it's the bike design that makes it kinda ...trickkyy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southend Trials Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Weight isnt a matter, its all technique! the only people that will notice that the weight is a help is people that have been in the game for ages! people who start on a light bike wont be able to manual straight away because its light.. rant over. And yeah, back to the question, i found leaning you bum over the rear end that it was inline with the axle helps, it doesnt matter if your front wheel is two feet high or two inches, aslong as your front wheel is up and your keeping the bike under control it doesnt matter.. manuals take hours and hours of practice! good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsrider101 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 It will take alot of practice, so I will tell you what I was told (helped me alot). 1. Cover your rear brake with one finger. 2 Pull the bars towards your chest hard and bend your knees at the same time. 3. Depending on how long your bike is will depend on your point of balance so once you have found that (I find the easiest way is to try and make yourself fall off the back of the bike then you will get used to how far you can go). 4. Lean back point your toes and enjoy hope this is a clear explanation ive just come off a night shift and dont forget to wear a helmet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I wouldn't bother trying too hard on that barge, their really not easy and if your starting out you really should be focousing on other things. - Ball of your feet on the pedals - The knee's control the bike - Ideally no brake. - And on that thing your going to have to give it a hell of a tug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben ev Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 if you have your bars higher it makes alot of difference. higher rise stem or longer forks with stem spacers. i couldnt pull the front up properly when i changed frames untill i got some new forks that raised the bar height up 2". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh - Sarge Posted March 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Thanks for all the tips. The videos were helpfull too. I will give it a go again. Jamie Im 5 foot 6. Some of you said the bike wont help being so heavy. I am looking at getting a new one seeing that I definatley want to ride trials now. What would good bike thats fairly light, durable and isnt to costly. I also have a hope pro 2 which i would want to put on it?? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhGy5OHa5bk He is SWAG at manuals! haha And try to learn without using any brakes at all, on a trials bike pulling the brake would (hopefully) snap you front wheel back down to earth with a boom (if your using a good well set up magura (disks are fine to use while manualling though.)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siontyrex Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 i also think high tirepressure wil help you to get your front wheel up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 i also think high tirepressure wil help you to get your front wheel up Didnt help me, in fact my tyres have been really soft recently and i have just learnt how to manual, biggest help i can give is lean back - right back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Ive been able to manual bikes for the last 14 years or so, learnt on bmx and got really good at them, however I really struggle with the trials bike purely because of the length relative to my height. Im 5'7", ride a 1085 wheelbase bike and 75% of the time Im not able to get the front up, its something I need to work on but compared to a bmx or conventional mountainbike its much harder to achieve. Moving the bars back (shorter stem) and up (more stackers or rotating the bars backwards) makes a huge difference, however it then affects how the bike rides in other situations. Ive found that preloading the front tyre before throwing your hips backwards really can help, once youre comfortable lofting the front wheel its the hard part of finding the balance point and holding it there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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