bikeperson45 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I think there's got to be a balance, for me it's not really fun riding one or the other. Sure there's the 24 people who are all like 'you, I hate sidehops, I'm so street I'm just going to 180 of a curb while you all sidehop and be gay', which is wrong. Every good trials rider is able to get up pretty high obstacles, even Danny Mac can tap, gap and sidehop better than most. I've just started riding after 4 months off, and I have been specifically 'training' to get size back to my rider as I can spin just as easily. The thing is (that I'm almost ashamed to admit) is that I also love riding TGS stuff. It may not be an adrenaline rush but there's always a lot of satisfaction in knowing you've outdone yourself. But then lines are fun to ride, especially when they incorporate big riding. For instance in Rowan John's CS video, the line with the up to the bin, small manual to sidehop, big tap then spinny off. It's an amazing line and part of what makes it so was the massive tap in it, although a video of purely that would of grown boring after the initial awesomness. Basically I think you have to be good at both, or you suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 ...then he probably didn't mean you. I'm not conceited enough to assume it was directed at me ... but I was just saying I don't think its a fair statement. The proportion of videos that are actually shite is actually fairly small now I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 The way you worded it implied you thought it was sort of indirectly implied towards you, when if you're putting effort into a video then it wouldn't have been. I assumed Matt was refering to the standard poorly filmed, poorly edited sorta thing people seem to put out quite often. There are some cool ones but like everyone's been saying things seem to be quite sort of formulaic, plus dubstep type music seems to be very popular at the moment and I don't really like it for trials videos This was Mark, btw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I wonder if javelin throwers and dart players have the same argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 That's a really poor analogy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I personaly love TGS style riding. As it uses my three favourite moves that I have the power and technique to do. The idea of moving from a simple 7 foot drop gap to a level ledge to ledge gap across 8 ft is the challenge I enjoy. Il will try it static, rolling or to front. Trying to mix it up TGS is thee choice of style for a large number of our riding group. That said I would jump at the chance to ride more natural. Ive ridden numerous lightweight comp style bikes and love them. Riding something other than flat walls and ledges is brilliant. The challenge of riding off-camber boulders/ rocks/ wood at awkaward angles is something I love. I also have huge admiration of the brakeless riders, Ali C, Mark Westlake, Stan Shaw to name 3. I wish I could do this but lack skills I have respect for all riders, no matter what their style is. Trials shouldnt be each style vs each-other all the time. GET OUTSIDE AND ENJOY RIDING YOUR BIKE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I personaly love TGS style riding. As it uses my three favourite moves that I have the power and technique to do. The idea of moving from a simple 7 foot drop gap to a level ledge to ledge gap across 8 ft is the challenge I enjoy. Il will try it static, rolling or to front. Trying to mix it up TGS is thee choice of style for a large number of our riding group. That said I would jump at the chance to ride more natural. Ive ridden numerous lightweight comp style bikes and love them. Riding something other than flat walls and ledges is brilliant. The challenge of riding off-camber boulders/ rocks/ wood at awkaward angles is something I love. I also have huge admiration of the brakeless riders, Ali C, Mark Westlake, Stan Shaw to name 3. I wish I could do this but lack skills I have respect for all riders, no matter what their style is. Trials shouldnt be each style vs each-other all the time. GET OUTSIDE AND ENJOY RIDING YOUR BIKE!! (Y) (Y) (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Shortage Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 GET OUTSIDE AND ENJOY RIDING YOUR BIKE!! Can we stop saying this now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 But it's true? seriously if your all passionate about trials go and ride not argue on an Internet forum. What happens to the people who ride TGS natural? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Shortage Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 How is it true? If they were that passionate themselves they'd never be off the bike in order to post such a shitty mandate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 It's not possible to be on the bike 100% of the time. Its just funny how a style of riding can spark up this much shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 TGS can still be part of pure trials, last round of british champs last year at Shipley is a good example. One section on a banking had the elite route going up an obscenely high and very steep angled rock with no run up, the only solution was to sidehop. And to be honest I don't even know if all the elite riders that day attempted to get up as it was MASSIVE! Another section on the top had a large climb onto a rock, think I remember watching one of the elite guys attempt it a whole different way to everyone else and gap across (which was also massive). Comes in handy everywhere, it ain't just a street thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Shortage Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 It's not possible to be on the bike 100% of the time. So saying 'GO N RYD UR BYKE M8' is pointless, as it's not possible to be on the bike 100% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 So saying 'GO N RYD UR BYKE M8' is pointless, as it's not possible to be on the bike 100% of the time. You mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 How is it true? If they were that passionate themselves they'd never be off the bike in order to post such a shitty mandate. If this is aimed at me then your wrong. I was merely putting across my view on it. I am passionate towards trials and spend much time and money persuing the sport I love. I use the forum in the evenings or during the day (If I cant ride for whatever reason) for around 10 minutes at a time to get across my opinion and help people with any problems they may have. This is part of my passion towards it otherwise I wouldnt bother with this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon W Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I think people think I hate TGS.....and they would mostly be right. HOWEVER, it's not the riding I dislike, the top guys who go huge are entertaining to watch and I could never imagine going as big as they do, it's very impressive. It's more the fact that some TGS wannabes are usually the same type of person. Usually loud, largely inconsiderate to the public, often rude and generally the type of person that I don't get on with. I know I am pigeon holing a lot of people into the same box, I realise there ARE perfectly nice people who ride TGS and I have total respect for them, but the others give that type of riding a bad name. Well perhaps it's not TGS riders, more the ones that JUST do sidehops. to be honest mate, thats fully true, ive met alot of them on rides and its intolerable, i mean like they aint all like that, but there seems to be a big clan all trying to act weird, i just dont get it. i think this topics gone on waaaaay to long now, people are getting carryed away. trials is trials nomatter how you ride, who gives a f.uck? certainly not me, and its definatly not worth arguin over amen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 to be honest mate, thats fully true, ive met alot of them on rides and its intolerable, i mean like they aint all like that, but there seems to be a big clan all trying to act weird, i just dont get it. i think this topics gone on waaaaay to long now, people are getting carryed away. trials is trials nomatter how you ride, who gives a f.uck? certainly not me, and its definatly not worth arguin over amen ^ Too true. Also met allot of people that are inconsiderate, loud and dont think of the public around them when they ride. The result is the whole group is looked at as some anti-social, trouble causing clan of bikers. All thanks to one or two individuals. You still riding Damon?? Theres meant to be a ride in hull coming up in around 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Look at a lot of bmxers - they go higher than a lot of trials riders, do a lot bigger drops and get up all manner of obstacles that trials riders could only dream of. Using momentum and rolling things to me is a good idea. Plus they usually better on rails to! Go do BMXing then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam T Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Go do BMXing then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Go do brakeless trials then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) Go do BMXing then! "Go do".... I shall respond when you obtain a basic understanding of the English language. Edited February 10, 2011 by Matthew62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John - Hynes Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Go do BMXing then! It's a fair statement though. He's going on about bmx being cool and that, so go and ride bmx if you're just gonna look down on trials cause it's not 'fast' or 'high' enough. This is a stupid topic, and this argument will never have a correct answer. If you like tgs you shouldn't have to explain why to spinny idiots. And if you like street you shouldn't have to explain why to all the tgs-y sidehop fags. It really is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 It's a fair statement though. He's going on about bmx being cool and that, so go and ride bmx if you're just gonna look down on trials cause it's not 'fast' or 'high' enough. This is a stupid topic, and this argument will never have a correct answer. If you like tgs you shouldn't have to explain why to spinny idiots. And if you like street you shouldn't have to explain why to all the tgs-y sidehop fags. It really is that simple. Hey! Simple minded man - why don'ts you think for a friggin' minute. I likes the bmx style so i trys to encorporate it in my trials riding. Riding lines with momentum, not doing much static work, trying to keep flow - use that influence from the bmx boys but then mix it with the fundamentals of trials. Best of both worlds is the way i see's it. I ain't lookin' down on trials - i just don't like these friggin' wise guys who only sidehops every god damn thing. P.S. you little muthfukka...i never said BMX was cool so dont be putting words in my mouth. However i do's agree that it often ain't fast enough. Just watching the likes of Ali C, Danny Macacac or Chris Akrigg shows you just how beautiful it can be when ridden like a champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 What happened to riding for the friends and laugh of it?? Thats the style i ride, i dont need to go big or fluid just as long as i have fun Isnt that the whole point?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 NOOOO!!! Fluid or inches. You can only pick one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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