Matt Vandart Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Right I have been having a fekin nightmare doing manuals because my brake is so awesome, rockman pads, avid sd calipers and levers, echo tr rim GGGGRRRRRRIND! So what I want to know is, how much in your opinion does the grind affect hold rather than bite, because obviously the bite goes way up when you grind your rim. I am thinking of either smoothing my grind off or getting new rims to give me a bit more modulation. Thing is I have been using a grind for so long now, I cant remember what the hold is like without a grind. Thing is my mate just recently got back into trials and I went out with him and he was having no problem with hold on his bike with no grind (and even less pads one was on the metal) which got me thinking does grind MASIVELY improve hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 On my 24" bike, I have heatsink yellows on a dead grind which is good for manuals. The hold isn't as good as it is on my stock (which has the same pads but with a grind) but it still is deffinately usable. I only lose abit of trust in it when it gets wet. I mean it still works pretty good in the wet but I wouldn't push it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Other than the fact i wanted the ability to ride in wet conditions with a decent brake, i would definately run a smooth rim. The hold and modulation you get is so much better, although the brake is more affected by any foreign surface material and requires cleaning relatively regularly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 When I used to run Plaz CRMs on a smooth D521 cleaned with muc off back in the day, it was the bitiest thing I've ever used. I'd say least bite comes from a dead grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for that dude, but that is what I am saying does a grind affect bite (as in improve it) more than hold? Cos I am not bothered about bite but am about hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Yoshi Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Have you thought about a disk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Yeah dude I just sold em, wanna use vees. Thanks for your reply anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I've got a BB7 on the back of my Dr. Jekyll thing and I'm surprised how well it handles trials. I recommend that. I think a grind does improve bite over hold. I think with a solid setup and good pads you can see enough hold out of a smooth rim. All the old school riders used to manage on toss pads and smooth rims so it must be possible, lol. I recommend disc though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 When I used to run Plaz CRMs on a smooth D521 cleaned with muc off back in the day, it was the bitiest thing I've ever used. I'd say least bite comes from a dead grind. This. i run Lgms on a dead grind, piss all bite but soooooooo much hold still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 so off with its grind then, echo tr rims hold a grind so well I ground it about 6mnths ago and it still isnt dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 With my heatsink yellows, when the grind dulls the bite remains but the hold dissapears - just to add to the confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I've got similar experiences. The bite and hold decrease. Probably because I'm rubbish at grinding rims. I don't ride in the wet anyway so smooth rim + a bit of tar and you have a brake that will never go wrong unless you get but a drop of water on the surface. Back in the days when I could be bothered to ride in the wet, a light grind + the old Coustsinks was more than enough to keep the brake honking even in deep puddles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I've got a BB7 on the back of my Dr. Jekyll thing and I'm surprised how well it handles trials. I recommend that. Their tragic for trials, too much arm pump and no real "feel" No-ones suggested it so ill chuck it out there, just learn to death grip manual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Lol, thats what I have been doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
multi tasking male Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 my friend had a fresh grind on back of a mod with onza lemon pads and that had very good hold and modulation, could manual it easyly but held realy well, i would just say maybe a light grind ? chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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