trialsmax04 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Is this ammount of engagements really needed?!? Clicky Edited January 22, 2011 by trialsmax04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24martin Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 i dont see why not, if you got that sorta money to spend on a freewheel haha (which i don't) but i just went from a tensile 60 click, to a nice new echo sl108 from good 'ol tartybikes, and for trialsy style move's, its totally transformed my zoot!! its so much more responsive and im finding it even easier to get my feet / cranks in the exact position that i want them before a big gap or drop!! so for a hardcore tgs rider or comp rider, i'd say the more engagements the better! and i know everybody hates loud freewheels (even though secretly they don't) but that thing has gotta sound awesome, probably sounds like two king hubs bolted together or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Well if it's as good as the normal Rockman freewheels then perhaps it should be delivered with a warning note saying "do not mount on bicycle". edit: on the other hand, I wonder what it would feel like if a freewheel like this skipped during a gap. Edited January 22, 2011 by Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Perhaps it wouldnt really skip as such? Would just feel like a slightly larger engagement point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24martin Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Well if it's as good as the normal Rockman freewheels then perhaps it should be delivered with a warning note saying "do not mount on bicycle". haha, i have no experience with rockman parts, heard some bad stories though! when i bought my zoot it came with a warning note saying something wierd like that, "this machine is not intended for indoor stunting and tricking" so i thought to myself oh well it should be fine if i ride it outdoors then Edited January 22, 2011 by onzamartin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 so for a hardcore tgs rider or comp rider or brakeless rider, i'd say the more engagements the better! and i know everybody hates loud freewheels (even though secretly they don't) but that thing has gotta sound awesome, probably sounds like two king hubs bolted together or something Mark said on the thread in the News bit that because it doesnt have a lock ring it shouldn't sound as loud as the SL Looks like its going to be good anyways. Adam from TB is trying one out so no doubt he will be able to tell us whats there like compared to the SL's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24martin Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 true, i like the idea of sealed bearings though, im sure there would be no need for a lockring with sealed bearings, i don't mean to jack this thread but seeing as it is a "freewheel" thread i may aswell ask, im fairly new to ffw, but after trying it, its grown on me and i really like it... but im slightly worried because i do a lot of fast streety stuff and i can't seem to stop thinking that my freewheel is going to lock up one day when im flat out doing a manual down a hill or something and my cranks will start to spin, leading to my legs wrapping around my cranks and snapping into a million pieces has anybody heard of a ffw locking up?? surely it would cause the cranks to spin right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 has anybody heard of a ffw locking up?? surely it would cause the cranks to spin right?? Not me..........only that sometimes your jeans can get caught in them but people get by this by having a full bash ring or tight jeans or something with elastic at the bottom to pull them in. I just wear shorts all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24martin Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Not me..........only that sometimes your jeans can get caught in them but people get by this by having a full bash ring or tight jeans or something with elastic at the bottom to pull them in. I just wear shorts all the time. thanks for the extra peace of mind mate... i got around the whole jeans getting caught after purchasing my first pair of spray on jeans not a good feeling but they sure do work!! i think its my recent industrial bout of o.c.d thats making me think my ffw is gunna jam up haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 i find the rockman freewheels weird. They skip like a bitch when new, but seem ok after a few weeks riding. Mate of mine has run his for a year now with no issues, the rockman 108. 144e.p sounds good though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 haha, i have no experience with rockman parts, heard some bad stories though! when i bought my zoot it came with a warning note saying something wierd like that, "this machine is not intended for indoor stunting and tricking" so i thought to myself oh well it should be fine if i ride it outdoors then In general they're ok its just the freewheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_ruskin Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 i find the rockman freewheels weird. They skip like a bitch when new, but seem ok after a few weeks riding. Mate of mine has run his for a year now with no issues, the rockman 108. 144e.p sounds good though! Well I've got the TrialTech 108 (which is basically the same) and mine did exactly that, skipped a lot when new but not as much now. Still skips like a b*tch constantly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well if it's as good as the normal Rockman freewheels then perhaps it should be delivered with a warning note saying "do not mount on bicycle". True, it does make sense applying blanket statements to vastly different products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 True, it does make sense applying blanket statements to vastly different products. Well now you're both just being silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Different core, different outer, different pawls, different springs, different bearings? Pretty much nothing in common with the 108.9 at all apart from it's a freewheel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Different core, different outer, different pawls, different springs, different bearings? Pretty much nothing in common with the 108.9 at all apart from it's a freewheel... Have any of the tarty boys tried this yet? It's out of my price range atm for at least another 4-5 weeks. I'm split between an Echo SL @ £40 or hope my freewheel doesn't completely shred a second set of internals and wait for this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Pretty much nothing in common with the 108.9 at all apart from it's a freewheel... I'm pretty sure that the reliability of a freewheel stems from such factors as the build quality, material quality and tolerances, not the fact that something is simply different. I'd love to see it work properly because it's a very interesting product but only time will tell if it's worth anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Have any of the tarty boys tried this yet? It's out of my price range atm for at least another 4-5 weeks. Adam's got one on his Sky as of yesterday. I'm pretty sure that the reliability of a freewheel stems from such factors as the build quality, material quality and tolerances, not the fact that something is simply different. Naturally, but the 108.9 still doesn't have anything to do with this. It's a completely different design, so it has as much relevance to the longevity of this freewheel as an ACS or an Echo. For what it's worth, the ones we've taken apart seem to be pretty good in terms of quality and tolerances. The engagement's really crisp which is surprising considering the amount of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Out of interest, is this freewheel louder than the SL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Out of interest, is this freewheel louder than the SL? Sounds like two skeletons fornicating on a tin roof. Edited January 25, 2011 by Luke Dunstan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Out of interest, is this freewheel louder than the SL? Quieter - since it has 2 sealed bearings the sound can't come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Quieter - since it has 2 sealed bearings the sound can't come out Ahh nice one cheers for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) I need one! My eno cant hack the strains of brakeless riding. The lock ring is coming loose on almost every ride, where as before with brakes it only needed tightening every other week. Edited January 25, 2011 by CalopS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gary-mac Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) got myself one of these, just in from afew hours riding. seems good, nice noise, pretty solid feel but it did skip afew times, due to the 144 clicks you can't really feel it but you sure can hear it. will use it and see how it go's. Edited January 25, 2011 by gary-mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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