nb88 Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 ok, a few questions... mark - would u be able to write a spec for your bike (the build with the rusty t-bone frame)... also - I heard that the t-pro 04 frame is the same geometry as the koxx levelboss? is this true? no biggie just wondering really. and im also very interested in the T-bone frame or T-pro frame - how much will the t-bone be on release? approx. same for t-pro. and will they both be available in march? thanks much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Right, as has all been said: The T-Pro is the same frame as the Levelboss. As has been said as well: It's available now full build, after Christmas it's frame only as well. Prices are uncertain. As was said 4 posts ago: The T-Bone is still pretty early on in development. No prices, colours or stickers are known yet. As is in the Bike Pics thread: Onza T-Bone frame. Onza TufGuy 20" forks. T-Mag wheelset front wheel. Onza prototype cassette hub rear, on DX-32 rim. Tensile cranks. KMC Kool chain. Onza VP Pedals sans inner cage. FSA Pig headset. Pazzaz carbon fibre bar and stem. Magura rear, avec RB Booster. Avid SD5 front V, with upside-down AD3 lever (due to mullered SD7 lever). Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 The T-Pro is the same frame as the Levelboss. From what I gathered it was just very similar to the levelboss. The headtube is different to start off with, it has an extra cable guide, dropouts are *very* slightly different and it's a different metal. Then anodised (dur). I know thats only small things, but all the same it's not just the levelboss frame with a new lick of paint. I'm not complaining, don't get me wrong, my friend has it on pre-order, it will be awsome, rides like the levelboss but for a 1/4 the price! good stuff onza :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 and it's a different metal. Nope. Both 6061-T6 2.0mm thick tubing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munki Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Just thought I'd ask the question about warrentys on the new frames.... Is it going to be along the lines of 1 year warrenty defects?? And then some sort of crash replacement in case some one kills one?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Nope. Both 6061-T6 2.0mm thick tubing. oh my bad... I was getting confused between zoo and Coustellier frame having different material and the koxx and onza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 Yeah Nic, bang on the money there. 1 year manufacturing defect, 2 year crash replacement. Same as most other people, really...well, apart from Monty, Koxx, Brisa... Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that some people seem to have issues with believing that the T-Pro is as good as the Levelboss, when it IS the same frame. The headtube has been improved, and the drop-outs may be a different shape. But that's it. Oh, and the "Onza" stamped into the end of the chainstays. Saves weight. Honest... Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munki Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 Yeah Nic, bang on the money there. 1 year manufacturing defect, 2 year crash replacement. Same as most other people, really...well, apart from Monty, Koxx, Brisa... Any more details on the crash replacement deal?? Half price frames?? £100 frames?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeDotStuffAtOnzaDotCom Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 Don't know if it counts as the 'range' you are on about, but here are the weights of the Onza Sticky Fingers tyres copied over from another post: 20x2.0 - 720g 20x2.4 - 930g 20x2.5 (19" rear wheel) - 1140g 26x1.95 - 770g 26x2.1 - 880g 26x2.5 1240g Prices are already up at Supercycles, as are the details of the half price replacement scheme (in terms and conditions), quoting the relevant bit: Onza half price replacement policy: Don't forget as well the Onza half price replacement policy. We recognise that trials riding, particularly non-competition urban riding is fraught with potential hazards. Some riders are also less proficient than others and may damage the cycle through inexperience. So, if that tricky little move you planned didn't quite go as intended and your bike comes into severe contact with wall/fence/railing/bollard/etc., you have the peace of mind of knowing that any Onza branded component will be replaced for half retail price. This operates at any time during the first two years of ownership and is a no-questions-asked unlimited policy. Even if you have a habit of reversing a car over it, it will be covered every time. The replacements will be supplied directly from ourselves and payment will be direct. Authorisation may, however, be required from the dealer from whom you bought the bicycle as your sale contract is always with them (unless you bought it directly from us). This policy covers Onza branded components only and whilst it applies to frames and forks, it does not cover complete bicycles. Of course, the damaged part has to be returned so it can be scrapped and to prevent people from trying to claim half price bits more than once off the same item... :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtotrials Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 The T-vee... I want to start trials and ive decided I want the T-vee ( I could have the t-bird but I dont like the sound of the HS11's) is this a good beginner trials bike if nor any recomendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtotrials Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Can someone tell me the approx weight please. btw is this a good beginner bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jang Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Its a very good beginner bike, ive only felt the weight of one quciky, id have to say about 12kg though dont quote me on that :- but its a pritty light bike really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 T-Bird: 19" back wheel = grippier tyres available. Also, the bike's more upgradable because it shares more parts with other frames. So yeah, I'd get that. If you're "Newtotrials" then there's no huge difference between AD-3's and HS11's. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Ive got a t-rex with a backend about as bent as a bent person :- The dropouts are quite badly twisted but I don't have a recept anymore :D Would crash replacement be still accepted on that? And do u rekon they would do a deal on a nice new woodstock when they come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 If it was bought within 2 year ago, probably. 0115 941 11 33. guess who's somehow memorised that number :- Oh, Danny, leave the 'kin bird alone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 (edited) if your on about the 2004 t-bird it is light for what it has on it and the new Hs11's are propa sharp..same as hs33 body but with a 3-4finger lever....hope that helped a bit Edited December 9, 2003 by mission_trialz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Thomson Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 OK, my mates wanting to start riding trials, woohoo!!!! and he asked to find him a good starters bike that was cheap. I immediately thought 'T-VEE', just want to know the usual info, cost, components list etc. cheers lads.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 get him to get a t-pro if u can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 The T-Vee is basically the same as the T-Bird V-brake edition from before, but with 2-bolt mounts instead of 4. Either way, he'd be better off saving up for the T-Bird...just tell him to save up for a little bit longer... Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 are the sticky fingers any good for pinch protection 26" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 are the sticky fingers any good for pinch protection 26" yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtotrials Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 I got my T-pro last week ( I'm not allowed it till Xmas but anyway...) and I was wondering what is the Pinch Protection is like on the 20" Sticky Fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 I got my T-pro last week ( I'm not allowed it till Xmas but anyway...) and I was wondering what is the Pinch Protection is like on the 20" Sticky Fingers. Apparantly it is very good. I will find a post about it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Heres the link for it, All you questions should be answered HERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unreal Rider Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 about these onza carbon bars. I know there 50 for a stem + bars, I wanna se a picture. I not seen them. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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