j-bonham@hotmail.com Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 It was clearly stating that you don't need to argue over his spelling, or his grammar. If he read the rules he will know getting validated depends upon proper use of the English language and being useful. All you to did was argue over who's right and who's wrong. My comment wasn't needed your right. It wasn't constructive but I keep getting notices that someone has commented on the thread and I come to see all the bickering. Like I said if your not going to be useful Don't type it's simple click your mouse and leave the page. For one to talk an ellipse has one three dots... for example we can correct you also. just drop it and take it for what ti was I don't want to read anymore about who's right who's wrong. life's to short go ride your bike. So don't post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop_Guy Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 So don't post... Can say the same, if not more for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoox Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 I am running a rear 2011 (?) HS33 with a water bleed and it seems to have excellent bite but the lever feels spongy even after bleeding, and it has too much travel. The pads are already very close to the rim (about 0.2 mm, with lever at rest). I realise that these are the classic symptoms of either a leak or air bubbles. I always bleed the brake fully submerged so there is no chance for air to get in. I'll bleed it again tomorrow in case it's a leek (which I assume would be if performance improves). The latest version of the HS33 brake seems to have some design flaws, the biggest one of them is that the lever needs to be pulled through about 3° before the pistons start moving out of the slave cylinders. I did a fully submerged water bleed and I am pretty sure there is no air in the system. The problem is in the lever and is caused by the new reach adjustment system. When set-up so that the lever is as far as possible from the bars, the problem goes away. So if I want my levers a little closer, I am also going to have to pull them further. I wonder if you guys have had better luck with the new maggies, because when I ride my bike I am well aware that the weakest link is the HS33, and I don’t trust it at all because my last fall was because of it and my butt was in pain for a week. My Avid BB7 has been nothing but joy: inexpensive, extremely reliable, virtually maintenance-free for the past half-year and maintenance is a doodle, By contrast, my HS33 cost me 3 times as much, is unreliable, requires constant maintenance and maintenance is a PITA, especially with the 4-bolt booster which I use in a futile attempt to improve its poor performance... So I am thinking about getting a 20-inch Echo with double-discs and forget about the hassles. One thing I like about discs is that bite seems to improve if you pour water on them e.g. while bedding them in. With rim brakes you get the opposite effect. This fact alone makes me want a rear disc even more as it's quite humid where I live. I'd like to know is if these problems (especially the reach adjustment problem) are specific to my brake/set-up and also whether discs can be just as dependable as a properly working HS33.when doing big stuff. I'll re-bleed tomorrow and see what happens. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 the new hs33 is an absolute pig to bath bleed, you are bette off leaving it oil bled, at least then you get the Magura leakproof warranty with it. or f**k it off and get an 04 lever with new pistons. best brake ever in my humble opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 2011 Magura's are a doddle to setup and use.... If your going through that much lever travel with your pads set at 0.2mm from the rim, there IS air trapped in there somewhere. My bro's has felt miles nicer than his old 05, and the pads move instantly. Bleeding thems no harder than an 05/pre 05 magura. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoox Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Bleeding/bath-bleeding my 2011 maggies is not that hard, I've bath bled mine a couple times and thought it was pretty easy, in fact easier than the older models because I could detach the lever from the handlebars without having to remove the grip. I still don't think Magura brakes are particularly high-quality products when compared to, say, Hope brakes. I wonder why Hope don't enter the rim brake market, they surely could come up with something far better than the current offerings and kick everybody else's ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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