PeterWest Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Hi All I just wanted to know how long it took you guys to be able to hop on the back wheel? I'm struggling at the moment and was wondering if anyone had so tips to get me going? Regards Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Alty Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 watch a view training videos like ryan leech, then practise putting your front wheel on a ledge and jumping the bike up and down, to get the feel of being on the back wheel but not having to hold the front wheel up, then take it from there jumping away from the ledge hanging your front wheel in the air and with practise it will become easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 I learnt the oldskool Martins way by riding along slowly, pop an endo and as your rear wheel comes back down lean back onto it to start hopping. And then I just practised at it trying to do as many as I could without dropping the front wheel, eventually it became second nature though this was 10 years ago so there may be some better ways to learn by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 As above, do it from an endo first! Easiest way to get the feel of things and where the balance point of your bike is. The hard bit is moving around, for that you need to drop your front wheel a little - that held me back for AGES when i was first starting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdonboy Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 ages, few things worth learning; being able to kick your pedals and bring your weight back at the same time so the bike rolls onto the back wheel, it's smoother and you usually have more control with it. next when your ok sitting on the back wheel, try letting go of the back brake and stabbing the pedal a little bit so the bike rolls along, before it whips out, lock up the brake to stop it, rinse and repeat... then when your confident with that add a jump to the motion and you'll be laughing, it sounds easy, but it's not, eventually it clicks and feels like second nature though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 "Pedalling and braking and pedalling and braking and pedalling and braking" (Spoken in dodgy German accent ala Hans Rey) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt.price Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 if it helps it took me months :/ got it now though ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robintrial Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 check the tutorials of no dabs here! it tokk me 3-4 months robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsIsHard Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 about 2 weeks i found it really helpful to watch someone hop infront of you and look at their body position, like if there arms are bent, how far they lean back etc .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanic Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 i to posted loads of times asking this question and no matter how many times people gave me tips or which videos i watched they never helped i basically went out every day for a month and practiced. start from an endo and get on the back wheel easiest way i found to do it was. endo then rock onto back wheel a few times then endo and rock to back wheel and bounce once a few times then endo and rock to back wheel and bounce twice a few times you get the picture. when i was just trying to bounce like the guys in videos on here it just didnt work. the tutorials i found on the net make it look simple but i know how frustrating it is when you just cant do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepo09 Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 It took me 3 months or so.. I really recommend some tutorial videos.. I watched Ryan Leech and helped me a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I did it the endo way in just over an hour. The pedal kick method took me a week or so to do. I'm one of those people that can "just do things" although I'm never really any good at it A year on (I ride maybe once every 4-5weeks) I can barely sidehop, I can up to rear and pigeon ok though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbon on an Orange 2 Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 "Pedalling and braking and pedalling and braking and pedalling and braking" (Spoken in dodgy German accent ala Hans Rey) then making motorbike noises while ramming your bike against a kerb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Think back hops took me a week or two. I used the endo method. Pedal kicks were much harder, I tried kicking to back wheel and then kicking some more, as wel as straight kicking from a back hop but after a while I switched to the wheelie-stop method and learnt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefkeeee Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I learned it in one week time. 1st try to wheelie a bit. 2nd lock the brake 3rd find balance point I find it easy to let the front wheel rest on some medium high obstacle and then try to hop like on a springstick. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupintart Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 This is exactly the problem when noobs don't take the time to learn the basics (trackstand all 4 ways, then without brakes, being able to balance on different heights, etc.) is the rear wheel is a huge problem. Nearly every person who learns to get balance down first, then and only then, try to get on the back wheel NEVER have problems. The 2 people I've told to learn this way after a month of getting basics down tried to get on the back wheel and it was nearly second nature (which btw, is what I preached when learning). The balance on the rear wheel could be learned within an hour if the balance has a solid foundation to rest upon. It's not just balance, but it's complete awareness of what different situations and weight distributions are like and knowing how to correct it to regain/keep balance. As soon as somebody can learn to know how to handle balancing skills, the rear wheel is easy. Problem is, noobs are so anxious to hop on the rear they end up with a shitty foundation of core skills, then have bad habits, and a year or two down the road are having one hell of a time breaking those habits. Learning properly, in the long run is usually much faster in progression of new skills as there are no/very little bad habits to correct in the process. Like anything learned, if learned properly, it's usually much more fun and far less frustrating. Anybody who plays a musical instrument can relate. You can jump head first into learning your favorite song and be good at that, but absolutely suck at everything else because you didn't take the time to learn the fundamentals. And the person who did learn the fundamentals after a year is far, far better in every aspect and learning new material isn't nearly as painful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-bonham@hotmail.com Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 This is exactly the problem when noobs don't take the time to learn the basics (trackstand all 4 ways, then without brakes, being able to balance on different heights, etc.) is the rear wheel is a huge problem. Nearly every person who learns to get balance down first, then and only then, try to get on the back wheel NEVER have problems. The 2 people I've told to learn this way after a month of getting basics down tried to get on the back wheel and it was nearly second nature (which btw, is what I preached when learning). The balance on the rear wheel could be learned within an hour if the balance has a solid foundation to rest upon. It's not just balance, but it's complete awareness of what different situations and weight distributions are like and knowing how to correct it to regain/keep balance. As soon as somebody can learn to know how to handle balancing skills, the rear wheel is easy. Problem is, noobs are so anxious to hop on the rear they end up with a shitty foundation of core skills, then have bad habits, and a year or two down the road are having one hell of a time breaking those habits. Learning properly, in the long run is usually much faster in progression of new skills as there are no/very little bad habits to correct in the process. Like anything learned, if learned properly, it's usually much more fun and far less frustrating. Anybody who plays a musical instrument can relate. You can jump head first into learning your favorite song and be good at that, but absolutely suck at everything else because you didn't take the time to learn the fundamentals. And the person who did learn the fundamentals after a year is far, far better in every aspect and learning new material isn't nearly as painful... +1 that is an awesome reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Anybody who plays a musical instrument can relate. You can jump head first into learning your favorite song and be good at that, but absolutely suck at everything else because you didn't take the time to learn the fundamentals. And the person who did learn the fundamentals after a year is far, far better in every aspect and learning new material isn't nearly as painful... Doh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshtp Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 2 weeks of an hour or two most nights... and 3 nasty crashes... still cant hop forward on the back wheel though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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