bike_dummie Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 (edited) hi, I am not sure on what frame to get out of a adamant A1, ST-1 or a GU typhoon if you could point me in the right direction that would be great!!! Edited December 23, 2010 by bike_dummie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 If i were you i would get something with slightly newer geo, but out of interest where have you found these frames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 The buy sell sectionwould these frames be ok till i have enough for a echo pure?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bike_dummie Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 they are great frames and if I had money I would deffo buy one,Adamant has more "classic/universal" geo,GU has higher BB so feels great on the backwheel...So choose what you prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 The A1 has a slightly more neutral geo, good solid frames; definitely wouldn't be a bad choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Cheers for the help i will go for the adamant thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Prattley Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 i have an adamant A1 for sale if its any good to you .. stripped down but still in good nick .. no cracks or dents ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 there nice frames, i know i will sound like keiran morrison, but my mate had one and it rid really really nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 can i have a link to it if its on here and ill consider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padarik Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 06 a1 are 60bb aswell depends what your getting long or short? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 06 a1 are 60bb aswell depends what your getting long or short? yup, the GU and adamant are near identical geometry, but I hate the ride of the adamant more than the GU for some reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks i hope a short if the guy will split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 anyone? You're new here so I'll fill you in. No need to bump topics every half an hour, this is a forum not a chat. It's generally acceptable to bump a topic once every 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted December 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 (edited) yeah sorry bout those bumps. what frame would be easier for me to learn techniques like rear wheel hops on?? sorry for all the questions Edited December 23, 2010 by bike_dummie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted December 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 BUMP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Alty Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Generally a high bottom bracket rise (bb rise) would be easier to learn back wheel hops, as they have a nicer feel on the rear wheel. If you get a mod with a high bb rise then rear wheel stuff becomes quite alot easier. However at the end of the day its all personal preference, especially if you have a previous riding background, where you are used to a different type of bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 yeah sorry bout those bumps. what frame would be easier for me to learn techniques like rear wheel hops on?? sorry for all the questions either of those bikes will be good on the rear wheel, perhaps too good! I am a big believer in learning all the techniques in trials, bunnyhops, backwheel stuff, front wheel stuff and even streetier stuff like manuals and spins, even if you don't need to use them that often, it will make you a better all-round rider. The two frames you mentioned have pretty extreme geometry in that the bottom bracket is very high, this means the bike will be very bias for rear wheel stuff sacrifices a lot of other stuff. This is all well and good if all you want to do is rear wheel hops, but there is a LOT more to trials than that. It's not like other frames are bad on the rear wheel either and learning all the moves on a less extreme frame will put you in good stead for the future. Something worth considering anyway, plus it's no coincidence that most riders with a nice style learned to ride on "normal" frames even if they then later went to high bb frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Thanks for the reps. ill probs stick to mid and learn the basics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGAN ?? Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 all im sayin is my A1 is the nicest frame iv ever had and iv had a lot of frames on various setups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 either of those bikes will be good on the rear wheel, perhaps too good! I am a big believer in learning all the techniques in trials, bunnyhops, backwheel stuff, front wheel stuff and even streetier stuff like manuals and spins, even if you don't need to use them that often, it will make you a better all-round rider. The two frames you mentioned have pretty extreme geometry in that the bottom bracket is very high, this means the bike will be very bias for rear wheel stuff sacrifices a lot of other stuff. This is all well and good if all you want to do is rear wheel hops, but there is a LOT more to trials than that. It's not like other frames are bad on the rear wheel either and learning all the moves on a less extreme frame will put you in good stead for the future. Something worth considering anyway, plus it's no coincidence that most riders with a nice style learned to ride on "normal" frames even if they then later went to high bb frames. I definitely agree with what you're saying Ali, far too many riders jump on expensive well set-up high BB bikes, and i dont think its conducive for good all round riders. To be a really good rider I reckon a cheap low BB bike is perfect, also with ghetto bikes you learn all the aspects of maintenance and mechanics necesscary to keep a modern trials bike working properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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