Dan6061 Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 When I had my old T-Bird, it came with a 20" wheel with V adapters on the Magura mounts. When I got a 19" wheel for it, I then changed to a Magura, and the mounts were in the right place for the wheel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Customer: Those brake mounts look strange, what are they for? Shop: It's so you can upgrade to a 19" wheel in the future if you wish. Customer: Oh, a 19" wheel? Why would I want one of those? Shop: [Explains why 19" wheels are better...] Customer: Oh I see, I might aswell just get a bike with a 19" wheel if it's that much better! That's sort of what happens some of the time anyway. I know whenever I talk to anyone I usually mention the whole 20"/19" rear wheel thing so they've got all the facts before they decide whether they want to stick with the Rip or upgrade to the Bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I think the reason that we produce the Rip in the way it is has been well documented and as many have said, its up to the seller to try and up-sell to a Bird. In terms of re-selling the Rip for 'pence' as somebody said, I would have thought that the market for re-selling Rips was quite buoyant, as we never seem to get it right on producing new ones. (we are once more out of stock till May). As some of you will remember, about five years ago we designed a Magura mount on the Bird which allowed both 20" and 19" wheels but that only suited Maguras. As you might expect we have looked at all sorts of ways to make the Rip upgradeable to 19" wheels but it always comes down to cost. We do have a design for a brake booster which bolts into the existing pivot holes and has new pivots for 19" wheels but nobody has convinced us yet that there is a market big enough for us to stump up the tooling costs for production. We made a similar one years ago for converting 26" frames to take 24" wheels for dirt jumping etc. and it was a flop. In terms of smaller pitched chains, Shimano tried it on Track Bikes 25 years ago but they produced very few of them before discontinuing. You can read something about it here. http://cyclingwmd.blogspot.com/2009/07/vintage-dura-ace-10-inch-pitch-track.html Sets of these are now as rare as hens teeth and are very sought after but opinion seems divided about the increased benefits. As is often the case, the rarity of them is more responsible for the value than any of the improved performance aspects. I realise that the arguments in favour of smaller pitches are slightly different to those of track machines, but I can't help feeling that had the improvement been great enough then they would have become the industry standard. (As in a-headsets, cartridge bottom brackets etc. etc.) I do posses a brand new full chainset, chain and sprocket of one of these, which I intend to put on Ebay shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I think the strength of the rip is a low start up cost for trials. Much the same when I bought my first electric guitar, I thought 'I'll buy something dead cheap so if I suck and can't get into it I've not lost too much money.' If then the person enjoys riding trials, it's worth the effort saving up for a 19" rear wheel mod, because they know they'll enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob L Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Echo shouldnt just force us to have push fit bbs if u want one of ther new frames, cus i want an echo but bought a reset ti bb not long ago and feel like i havnt got the use out of my £100 yet. Do more 26" frames with the option of long and short rather than just a set wb. More high bb bikes. Make carbon fibre chain stay protectors. ti bolts with stronger heads. All frames should have standard headsets. Titanium trials chains. Some sort of super light kevlar tube protector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Echo shouldnt just force us to have push fit bbs if u want one of ther new frames, cus i want an echo but bought a reset ti bb not long ago and feel like i havnt got the use out of my £100 yet. Do more 26" frames with the option of long and short rather than just a set wb. More high bb bikes. Make carbon fibre chain stay protectors. ti bolts with stronger heads. All frames should have standard headsets. Titanium trials chains. Some sort of super light kevlar tube protector. Sell the Reset BB, then buy an Echo and ask Tarty to upgrade you to the Ti BB? Then marvel at how your new BB is not only lighter than a Reset but also far far more reliable in both bearing longevity and axle strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 A titanium chain is pretty much the worst thing I can think of. Super expensive for a part that ideally needs to be replaced relatively frequently, not to mention I'd imagine they'd be more prone to chain stretch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Cheaper rear (116mm) disk hubs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 £25 not cheap enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Cheap and good quality rear (116mm) disk hubs, Fixed. I was thinking about getting the BT Large disk hub Adam told me about via email but as I couldn't find much information on it I decided to spend my money of family presents Now I'm saving up again, converting to dual disk bit by bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph82 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Anyone got any other asks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 A new heatsink 24UK mk3 would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayersToby Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Mix of alloy and carbon in the frame, to the point not like the ugly Mist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Trialtech forks with Vee mounts for all sizes. I hate adapters but refuse to run another fork. It's probably been said before, but whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayersToby Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Frame & Forks to have 2 bolts that mount ether 4 Bolt or cant stud. Gives option for both and easyer to fix the 4 bolt mount if stripped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantwhore Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Battery powered heated grips for the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Decent set of 24" tyres for 24 tgs trials bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Decent set of 24" tyres for 24 tgs trials bike. Schwalbe Fat Albert 2.4 on the rear and a Kenda Small block 8 2.1 on the front. Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 The 2.4" Big Betty surely qualifies as a decent TGS tyre? I'd very much like a frame like the Inspired Hex but with horizontal dropouts and a disc mount. I'm guessing that the reason why these frames don't have such features is that they'll be introduced one by one over the next 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 In that they designed their own dropouts from the ground up (well, so to speak) I don't know if they'd be likely to drop that system any time soon to make them horizontal dropout. Equally, I wouldn't have thought that they'd go rear disc on the Hex. It's been mentioned before and I think Ali said that neither he nor Inspired were that into the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Trialtech forks with Vee mounts for all sizes. I hate adapters but refuse to run another fork. It's probably been said before, but whatever This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Mallinson Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 All brake levers with split clamps, stop making trials frames with v brakes spaced at 80mm, for someone like magura or hope to make a v brake or cable disk brake lever that match's their hydraulic brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Also someone to make an uber clean, fresh, sleek lookin frame in the same way bmx's are. And for pashley to make a 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Also someone to make an uber clean, fresh, sleek lookin frame in the same way bmx's are. And for pashley to make a 24. You mean like the Inspireds? Also Marinos, Leesons...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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