Sponge Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 I just went out to buy a set of torx keys to remove the reservoir cap from my bro's Hope Mono Trial. It was originally bought second hand so the little T10 torx bolts were already a little worse for the wear. No luck getting the 2 bolts out with the T10 torx key I got, so I'm wondering what solutions there are? Last resort I might try the superglue method, but not even sure if that's strong enough to get the little bolts out? Seems the previous owner hamfistedly tightened them in... argh I'm pretty sure at least a small handful of people must've done this at some point, so if you could share some solutions that'd be great! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 mole grips are your best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 mole grips are your best bet. Either that or cut a slit in it so you can get at it with a screwdriver, or a woodchisel in my case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ding_dong Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 cuttinmg a slot and uesing a flat screwdriver works a treat, done it many a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 If you can get to the side of the bolt, file 2 flats then use either a spanner or preferably mole grips to get them out. If that doesn't work you may have to use your superglue method. All methods = new bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 The bolts are domeheaded and very very small, but also very hard so it's hard to cut a line in them with a hacksaw. The file either side method could work but because of the way they mount on the Hope reservoir cap, it's not really a viable option without trashing the cap. I've borrowed a pic from Tartybikes to clarify exactly what I mean: The two little bolts either side of the Hope logo. I'm considering getting either industrial strength epoxy resin or a pro-grabit screw remover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Just drill the head off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty221ti Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 take a hex key that are a bit bigger than the torx 10 maybe hex 3 or something like that and plug it in the bolt with a hammer, then you can just screw it off, i did this and it worked fine for me:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I drilled mine out on a pre-07 bore cap. works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbon on an Orange 2 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 The bolts are domeheaded and very very small, but also very hard so it's hard to cut a line in them with a hacksaw. Have you tried? If they were that hard, they wouldn't have rounded Get yourself a decent quality hacksaw blade and have a go and you might be supprised. I had to do it on my Mini lever and it worked fine, in fact, I'm still using the same bolt to this day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Have you tried? If they were that hard, they wouldn't have rounded Get yourself a decent quality hacksaw blade and have a go and you might be supprised. I had to do it on my Mini lever and it worked fine, in fact, I'm still using the same bolt to this day! He doesn't mean hard as in tough, he means hard as in difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 In which case he should take it to his LBS, as well as when he gets a puncture. Seriously? It's just cutting a straight line with a straight blade, which I know that I got taught in primary school woodwork lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted December 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 (edited) I meant hard as in: the material is hard, so the hacksaw I'm using kinda just jaggedly glides across it and gets pinged off without cutting into it. Having deepish teeth isn't really helping get an initial cut into it either without just pinging the blade off whenever any decent pressure is applied. Anything softer like alu would be a piece of cake to slice into straight. Maybe a better hacksaw'll do but the bolt is situated in an awkward position too where half of it is almost masked by the reservoir cap rise. I'll try epoxy resin'ing a torx key in there as a first go. Sadly, I don't have vices, nice drills, mills, garage CNC machines like most British households do! Thanks for some of the suggestions so far though ! Edited December 22, 2010 by Ares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted December 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Have you tried? If they were that hard, they wouldn't have rounded Get yourself a decent quality hacksaw blade and have a go and you might be supprised. I had to do it on my Mini lever and it worked fine, in fact, I'm still using the same bolt to this day! It was bought second hand on here off Jonny_B, seems he didn't tell me a lot of the little queries on this brake. Ah well, too late. He does seem to have done up the reservoir bolts extremely tight as industrial strength superglue didn't seem to work with a T10 torx key either. Mmm, decent hacksaw sounds a good investment, shame my last actual good one was left in the rain to rust to death by a kid a few doors down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 It was bought second hand on here off Jonny_B, seems he didn't tell me a lot of the little queries on this brake. Ah well, too late. He does seem to have done up the reservoir bolts extremely tight as industrial strength superglue didn't seem to work with a T10 torx key either. Mmm, decent hacksaw sounds a good investment, shame my last actual good one was left in the rain to rust to death by a kid a few doors down... It's not the hacksaw itself you want to worry about, just get a decent blade. As you mentioned, so nice sharp but shallow teeth would be perfect, but to be honest I've never found a blade I had trouble doing this with. MAN UP. Then it's just a case of taking your time with those first cuts - just pull the blade towards you a few times till you've got a groove to work in. Should be nice and easy really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 If a T10 has rounded out though, the bolt must be pretty damn tight (or siezed), therefore a screwdriver isn't gonna get the bolt out. If you drill the head off, this will release the pressure on the threads, and whatever is left you can get out with a pair of pliers (or by hand). Using a hacksaw won't really help, and it's almost impossible not to nick the top cap with the blade in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 If a T10 has rounded out though, the bolt must be a tight, therefore a screwdriver isn't gonna get the bolt out. If you drill the head off, this will release the pressure on the threads, and whatever is left you can get out with a pair of pliers (or by hand). Using a hacksaw won't really help, and it's almost impossible not to nick the top cap with the blade in the process. Good point well made. Trust the pro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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