guy13 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I am having trouble pulling the front end up and doing manuals. if i hop up on to the back wheel and then give a pedal kick i can manual for maybe 8-10m. But when i try to start from a rolling start i cant get the front end high enough, even if i go stupidly hard at it i cant get the front up and go straight of the back, if that makes sense. I have a fairly flat stem angle 10 degrees, which i like for side hops, but wonder if a stem with more angle might be the answer? any advice or things i could try before i go out and buy a new stem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Shortage Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Nn4Z5WVIg Oooooooooh manuals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 A higher front end would help (either higher rise bars or stem) but first try using your body weight more. While you're rolling along gently throw your weight forward a bit and then immediately throw your weight backwards as you yank your bars and haul the front wheel up. It's kind of hard to describe but you want to use the momentum of your upper body travelling back to pull the front wheel up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy13 Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 A higher front end would help (either higher rise bars or stem) but first try using your body weight more. While you're rolling along gently throw your weight forward a bit and then immediately throw your weight backwards as you yank your bars and haul the front wheel up. It's kind of hard to describe but you want to use the momentum of your upper body travelling back to pull the front wheel up. Thanks for the advice, will give it ago as soon as the ice melts a bit !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I find that throwing your weight back is not as important as how you use your legs obviously they both play a part though. As you throw your weight back bend your knees a little and as the front leaves the ground kick you legs out to push the back wheel through and under the front as if you are trying to loop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 As you throw your weight back bend your knees a little and as the front leaves the ground kick you legs out to push the back wheel through and under the front as if you are trying to loop out. Good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 As you lean back and put pressure through your legs, try and sit back into it if that makes any sense? Look where you're going too and just feel what's going on beneath you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 When I was first learning them I was just trying to pick up the front wheel and then move my weight back. When I realised that is was more of a push your body back thing, rather than just trying to pick up the front wheel, I made much better progress. If you can make any sense of that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Practice just getting it to the balance point stationary too (well, rolling very slowly) and sitting there, that helped me quite a bit. Also makes for superawesomely smooth set ups to things. Edited December 16, 2010 by Skoze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynas13 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Also increase your tire pressure if you havent already. I find manuals really hard with low pressure. Practice on a downhill slope if you can as that helps me go for longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy13 Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Thanks all, i think i know what you mean with pushing the legs through, in my head anyway. To much snow and sledging with my daughter right now!!!!! i will come back with any results when the snows gone, hooray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 It IS worth noting you can make a bike impossible to manual. My mate, bendy on here, had a zhi that was impossible to bunnyhop. I seriously tried so hard to do it but it wasn't doing it. So yeah, having a bike that's impossible to do it on won't help, because you can't do it even if you can do it. So maybe try on someone else's bike to see if you can do it even a bit, you may want to tilt your bars back then or slap some stem stackers in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 It IS worth noting you can make a bike impossible to manual. My mate, bendy on here, had a zhi that was impossible to bunnyhop. I seriously tried so hard to do it but it wasn't doing it. So yeah, having a bike that's impossible to do it on won't help, because you can't do it even if you can do it. So maybe try on someone else's bike to see if you can do it even a bit, you may want to tilt your bars back then or slap some stem stackers in there. This is a thought but if you get used to a bike you will still be able to do it it will just be harder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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