LukasMcNeal Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 They look soo boring! And +90mm HAHAHAHAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 f**king stupid, the limey 4 proto i rid had 90bb and it was ridiculous. too high I wouldn't ever go as high as that, but the main thing is about balancing it out. If you raise the BB height, then ideally you need to raise the bars a little too to counteract it a bit. If that Limey was using the same bits that were on it when it had a lower BB, then I'd imagine it might feel a bit over-the-barsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dd Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Would be great if they made 70% reduction in price for 2010 models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I wouldn't ever go as high as that, but the main thing is about balancing it out. If you raise the BB height, then ideally you need to raise the bars a little too to counteract it a bit. If that Limey was using the same bits that were on it when it had a lower BB, then I'd imagine it might feel a bit over-the-barsy. at the time ryans had that mega high onza stem and tensile risers, pretty damn high front end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) I wouldn't ever go as high as that, but the main thing is about balancing it out. If you raise the BB height, then ideally you need to raise the bars a little too to counteract it a bit. If that Limey was using the same bits that were on it when it had a lower BB, then I'd imagine it might feel a bit over-the-barsy. What would that actually do if you raised the bar height would it make you feel like you had a lower BB on two wheels but still have the advantages of the 90BB on the rear wheel? Or would it just feel like you had an 80BB for eg, so you loose some advantage of the rearwheel/high BB effect? Also how does BB effect being on the front wheel? Such as endo's Up to front, taps gaps to front. etc. EDIT: Jake, what was the WB on that thing again? 995 wasn't it? Edited December 15, 2010 by Laurence--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I don't know if you have seen, but the sky 2 frames stock and mod are heavier that sky 1 frames... Strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Okay i want to apologise for posting so much and having so many questions tonight.. last one two http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/uploads/innocent.png' alt=':angel:'> for now... Why on the stock does it have a gusset behind the seat tube (right word?) the small triangle one. and is this the 2011 black sky? or aren't there different colours/names this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dd Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Okay i want to apologise for posting so much and having so many questions tonight.. last one two http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/uploads/innocent.png' alt=':angel:'> for now... Why on the stock does it have a gusset behind the seat tube (right word?) the small triangle one. and is this the 2011 black sky? or aren't there different colours/names this year I am guessing increased frame life and stiffness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty221ti Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 how did you make this? :-o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) So is this Koxx a bit like a modstock? (the 26" version) Andwill Koxx make this one like an £800 frame? Edited December 15, 2010 by Kieran Morrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 What would that actually do if you raised the bar height would it make you feel like you had a lower BB on two wheels but still have the advantages of the 90BB on the rear wheel? Or would it just feel like you had an 80BB for eg, so you loose some advantage of the rearwheel/high BB effect? Also how does BB effect being on the front wheel? Such as endo's Up to front, taps gaps to front. etc. EDIT: Jake, what was the WB on that thing again? 995 wasn't it? Raising the bar height just means that it doesn't feel like all your weight's over the front. It balances it out a bit so you still get a nice, manoeuvrable bike, but you don't feel like all your weight's going through your wrists. If you just raise the BB height it makes it better if you live on your back wheel, but it generally makes 2-wheeled moves not feel as nice, and it can make doing moves to front a little odd as your weight's already biased in that way. Why on the stock does it have a gusset behind the seat tube (right word?) the small triangle one. and is this the 2011 black sky? or aren't there different colours/names this year Stronger, stiffer. This is the only Sky as far as I'm aware. So is this Koxx a bit like a modstock? (the 26" version) Andwill Koxx make this one like an £800 frame? It's a 'modstock' in the sense it has a 116mm rear end. The price of the frame is already in the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weebryan Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Correct me if i am wrong Chain tensioner is interesting no snail cam bolts Edit i see a stub ???? whats the idea in this then less chance of movement. Why dont they make a semi moon shape so the snail cam sit almost inside more contact less movement Edited December 16, 2010 by weebryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Swales Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 The article has now been updated with the weights for each frame, thought I'd post them in here as well: 20" - 1530g (including bashplate) 26" - 1590g We've also just seen a picture of Vince's full bike - I think it looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Elson Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Ahh the full build picture looks amazinggg! his running the new maguras too! i think the bb is abit tooo much but meh might be alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy83 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 The article has now been updated with the weights for each frame, thought I'd post them in here as well: 20" - 1530g (including bashplate) 26" - 1590g We've also just seen a picture of Vince's full bike - I think it looks great! looks amazing.where can i steal oh i mean buy this from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Whats the difference between the aluminium used for the 2011 and the K-alone used for 09-10. Is it stronger or something because the frames heavier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Those forks on Vincent's bike are they a new TryAll/Koxx design for 2011, as they look like have less rake and simular design to Inspired fork? Edit: doesnt matter as i couldnt see the familar curved part of the lower legs and thought they were straight legs. Edited December 16, 2010 by Rusevelt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 simular design to Inspired fork? And what similarities did you pick up on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Swales Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 They both have two legs, with dropouts at the end for the wheel axle to fit into? Only kidding. I don't know anything about the alloy or the forks I'm afraid - all the info we have is in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Pretty sure DOB did that bash design a while ago. The frames in the UK will be £699 I think. I reckon they'll be more popular as complete bikes given the 116mm hub on the 26" and post mount brake on the 20", but we'll be getting some separate frames in to inspect anyway Oh and the mod is 1000, +90, 350. Im in the market for a 26, and this really tickles my pickle, any idea on eta of a full build or having a frame to let me build a custom bike ;P? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Im in the market for a 26, and this really tickles my pickle, any idea on eta of a full build or having a frame to let me build a custom bike ;P? Hopefully before Xmas for the frames, bikes... early Jan I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Hopefully before Xmas for the frames, bikes... early Jan I reckon. 20" - £1749, 26" - £1599 Well if its near that price with the gear you mentioned i will probably have a full build asap then What sort weight do you think were looking at 9kg and under ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) What sort weight do you think were looking at 9kg and under ? My triton frame is the same weight as the 26" (albeit much stronger Ill warrant ) and my bike is 8.8kg even with 950g forks. You could quite feasibly get one down to 8.7-8.6kg without a huge amount of hassle Edited December 16, 2010 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Nobody cares that the new frames are heavier ? + 130g for the 26" version ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Nobody cares that the new frames are heavier ? + 130g for the 26" version ... Cheaper though... Personally it seems like step backwards in a few respects... Mod stock spacing Bland and uninteresting graphics. The red and orange sky were works of art! Not a really low weight? 1.6kgs is more average nowadays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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