Themistoklidis Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Hey guys can anone explain to me the differences between internal and standard headsets?Also i have a problem with my headset.I have an onza zoot 2010 and the whole front end feels a bit "wobbly" .No matter how much i tight it when i am on a complete stop and push the front brake,then move back and forth the front end feels a bit loose.Is my headset damaged? Thanks,Themis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam T Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Could be your starnut, order a new one or if you dont want to use star nuts buy a headlock. Star nut Headlock Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Hey guys can anone explain to me the differences between internal and standard headsets?Also i have a problem with my headset.I have an onza zoot 2010 and the whole front end feels a bit "wobbly" .No matter how much i tight it when i am on a complete stop and push the front brake,then move back and forth the front end feels a bit loose.Is my headset damaged? Thanks,Themis. your fork might be too long,or did you loose your stem bolts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistoklidis Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Could be your starnut, order a new one or if you dont want to use star nuts buy a headlock. Star nut Headlock Sam I have just replaced my starnut because my old one got bend. Which one do you think is better?Are the headlocks heavy? your fork might be too long,or did you loose your stem bolts? I dont think theres a problem with my fork length because its the factory one,and the stem is tight...Im afraid it may be my headset though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Make sure you have at least 1cm of room between the top of the steerer and the top of the stem before tightening. Might be the "wedge". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Make sure you have at least 1cm of room between the top of the steerer and the top of the stem before tightening. Might be the "wedge". 5mm is more then enough, if its a 1cm gap then the top stem bolt will just be crushing the steerer tube and won't be adding much clamping force. To the original poster, how are you trying to tighten it up? Are any components missing from the headset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistoklidis Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Make sure you have at least 1cm of room between the top of the steerer and the top of the stem before tightening. Might be the "wedge". What do you mean by wedge? 5mm is more then enough, if its a 1cm gap then the top stem bolt will just be crushing the steerer tube and won't be adding much clamping force. To the original poster, how are you trying to tighten it up? Are any components missing from the headset? No there all there,but what do you mean with how im trying to tighten it up?untight the stem,tight the topcap,then tight the stem if thats what you mean.It doesnt have much "play"in the headset,but ive ridden bikes with less "play"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam T Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I have just replaced my starnut because my old one got bend. Which one do you think is better?Are the headlocks heavy? Personally i think headlocks are better. You dont have to worry about star nuts any longer, just tighten it and job done! As for weight, they arn't too heavy. If i was you, i'd sacrifice a litte bit of weight for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 are you running a front disc? might be worth checking those bolts, also some discs have some play in the pads. These could cause a 'wobbly' front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 are you running a front disc? might be worth checking those bolts, also some discs have some play in the pads. These could cause a 'wobbly' front end. This^ Even slightly loose calliper or rotor bolts can lead to a lot of play in the front end. If that's not it then it might be worth stripping and inspecting the headset and bearings. It could also be the headset cups moving slightly in the frame? (that would need a new headset to fix) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch-119 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 (edited) Just a quick check but are you tightening the stem/steerer tube clamp bolts or the top cap bolt? Don't think anyone asked this yet... Edit: And are you loosening the stem/steerer tube bolts before you tighten the top cap bolt, because if you're not it'll just pull the star nut up or snap the top cap/bolt Edited December 12, 2010 by T-Proboy13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistoklidis Posted December 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 (edited) are you running a front disc? might be worth checking those bolts, also some discs have some play in the pads. These could cause a 'wobbly' front end. Nope,Front Vees... This^ Even slightly loose calliper or rotor bolts can lead to a lot of play in the front end. If that's not it then it might be worth stripping and inspecting the headset and bearings. It could also be the headset cups moving slightly in the frame? (that would need a new headset to fix) No the caps arent moving but i'll check the bearings though... Just a quick check but are you tightening the stem/steerer tube clamp bolts or the top cap bolt? Don't think anyone asked this yet... Edit: And are you loosening the stem/steerer tube bolts before you tighten the top cap bolt, because if you're not it'll just pull the star nut up or snap the top cap/bolt Of course i loosen the steerer bolts first before i tighten the top cap! Anyways,If i want to replace the headset,should i go for an internal one?Or stadard headsets are better? Thanks. Edited December 12, 2010 by BikeTrialsInGreece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 your frame will only take one or the other. What frame is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistoklidis Posted December 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Onza zoot 2010.So stadard it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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