zoster Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) EDIT: CURRENT BUILD ( V4): changes: went back to 25.4 handlebars, because i realized i like the elasticity (i won't like the face plant as much, but hopefully that won't happen without notice) went ffw again, i realised i REALLY missed the weight distribution. running 17/12 now which feels great for street-trials (similar to 22/16) lost the brake booster and i can't say i notice any difference lost the front brake and i really enjoy it like this. i rode brakeless a few months before building this setup and i missed the smoothness and the simplicity so i went halfway and kept the rear brake only which i tend to use as little as possible got the echo fork back on (it's a bit shorter and i like the geo better, plus marino's fork was is a bit asymmetric which bugs me) put on a kenda k-rad on the back as well and i love it. holds well enough for trials and it feels great at street stuff and cruising around also changed my previous grips (which were slim lock-ons with an outer layer of tennis grip) with trialtech foam ones. it's cool they're so light, and they are actually tough, which is surprising, they also stay put, which also is also surprising, but they do feel a bit more "fluid", yet not enough to be annoying, so it's all good... that's about it. i think i'll keep this setup for a while since i really enjoy it feel free to comment the tensioner works well nice so far EDIT: PREVIOUS BUILD (V2) changed some drive train stuff and handlebar/stem. have the 23T trialtech sprocket and a bashring i locally build for around 12gbp. bashring is 84g, 6mm wide, 110 exterior diameter so that it can adopt a 24t sprocket in case some manufacturer decides to build them. chain tension is so far ok, but will loosen soon enough. i'll probably try a spoke tensioner first. didn't get a chance to ride it since it snowed. will have to see if i get along with front vees this time around... INITIAL POST: right, so here are the first pics of my upcoming build. if everything goes well, tomorrow i'll have a fully functional bike. here's what i asked for: (the wrapping shape of the spoke was his input, i'll go with the "laid" shape (paint is done locally) Edited May 17, 2011 by zoster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Alty Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) chainstay looks stupidly thin no? I dont know much about BMXs though so :\ Edited December 7, 2010 by Jon Alty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 chainstay looks stupidly thin no? I dont know much about BMXs though so :\ bmxs? was that sarcasm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 chainstay looks stupidly thin no? its steel, doesn't need to be as large diameter tubes to be as strong as allow. looks nice! whats the perk of the vee mounts underneath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 NICE!! I like the spoke bitty. Not so much a fan of the colour but the geo sounds quite nice. Maybe some stickers on it would break up the colour a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 bummer. didn't have much luck with the chain length. it's slack as hell. i would need a double wheel tensioner to accommodate this length. if i put a half-link in, i will probably get away with a single wheel tensioner, but i don't think a spoke tensioner would do the trick... damn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Can always try the half link then. Its an old looking chain. What about trying a new one? How is the clearance on the cranks and brake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Can always try the half link then. Its an old looking chain. What about trying a new one? How is the clearance on the cranks and brake? yeah, i will put a half-link on, and see from there on. the chain is actually brand new, it's just a shady pic. the cranks clear the brake arms fine thanks for answering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) Mega short rear end? Looks pretty compact. Not fan of the colour but am interested to see when finished. [edit] Should of looked at the first pic. 378mm. Looked a bit shorter. Though the wheelbase is short! Edited December 8, 2010 by eskimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Shorter the better (backend) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewG Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 KMC chains are stretches about a time som few rides and thas would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 (edited) bike is pretty much finished (just needs some wheel truing and such) i'll make some pics tomorrow, since my camera doesn't do so good in artificial light. until then, here's how i resoled the tension problem: first i got a tensioner similar to this one in order to find out it doesn't fit (the fixed arm is too short to accomodate 18T). fortunatelly i can return it. i then put a half link on and thought of ways to tension it. the slack was too big to use a spoke, so i made this: the metal plate can move around the axis, because the bolt that goes into the vee mount that is on the chainstay is tightened by the nut that seats between the mount and the plate it doesn't show in the pics but i have about 4 mm of clearance between the chain and the chainstay seems to work... only went out to test it for a few minutes.. Edited December 8, 2010 by zoster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 MEH, i'll put some more pics tomorrow, until then, here it is: oh, my, double post! (i need the attachments...) BRAKED: BRAKELESS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpanzyyyy Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 looks awesum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Yeah.. like it! Loving the initial spec list, great use of tools right there. Can you run 22t on those cranks? You could have a play with gear ratios to achieve a neater chain tension (if you really wanted). This'll be of some use; http://www.machinehead-software.co.uk/bike/chain_length/chain_length_calculator.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Mike, he's running a rear free wheel. So hes limited to what ratios he can run. I don't have to tell you that! I don't really like the colour, might be better in the sun light? What I am loving though is, the fact that Marino is producing sweet ass frames that have different ways of keeping the ol'chain tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted December 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) looks awesum thanks, mate Yeah.. like it! Loving the initial spec list, great use of tools right there. Can you run 22t on those cranks? You could have a play with gear ratios to achieve a neater chain tension (if you really wanted). This'll be of some use; http://www.machinehe...calculator.html i can run 22, but i like this ratio better (24/18= somewhere between 18/14 and 18/13). 23/18 would be cool also (same as 18/14), but i don't know ant 23T chainrings for 4 arm cranks. 22/17 would be similar, but i don't want to invest in another freewheel atm (plus there aren't many options with 17T). oh, and cool link, thanks! Mike, he's running a rear free wheel. So hes limited to what ratios he can run. I don't have to tell you that! I don't really like the colour, might be better in the sun light? What I am loving though is, the fact that Marino is producing sweet ass frames that have different ways of keeping the ol'chain tight. the color isn't that different in sunlight, but i do like it quite a lot the way it is. the chain tensioner idea was actually mine, marino just implemented it. don't know about sweet ass, i would have a few complaints... Edited December 9, 2010 by zoster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) the chain tensioner idea was actually mine, marino just implemented it. don't know about sweet ass, i would have a few complaints... I didnt say it was his idea. The eccentric idea wasnt his either, or mine for that matter...But he did build the frame to your spec. Did you give Marino feedback on the frame if you werent happy? Edited December 9, 2010 by Ross McArthur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted December 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) Did you give Marino feedback on the frame if you weren't happy? no, but i'll write him another mail soon. EDIT: he realized it was a mistake and will build another one Edited December 9, 2010 by zoster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh_side_2003 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 thats looking pimp dude. im still waiting to take my 20" for a spin... cant wait !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Didn't really buy me with the initial pics regarding the colour but there with it built up you have pulled it off rather well man . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Really enjoy the homemade tensioner. Frame looks pretty too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 thanks mates, i'll post some new pics after i change a few bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoster Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 new pics on the first page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I don't like the colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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