Jon Alty Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Pretty sure im going to be buying the blue slate III, undecided on tapered headtube or not atm. Also if its loads of dosh then obviously i wont get it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 The Slate 2 was £449, so I'd be very surprised if the Slate 3 was cheaper than that. The taper version's also going to be coming with Rockman's forks (which are £149 for the 'normal' version, so I'd imagine they'd be the same/possibly more for the taper version), and a headset, so that should probably give you an early indication of whether they'll be too much or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 The Slate 2 was £449, so I'd be very surprised if the Slate 3 was cheaper than that. The taper version's also going to be coming with Rockman's forks (which are £149 for the 'normal' version, so I'd imagine they'd be the same/possibly more for the taper version), and a headset, so that should probably give you an early indication of whether they'll be too much or not. Could be the born for me then! Wish there were a few more of them about on here to be honest, saying that I've not really noticed many slate II's either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I don't know if they actually make one, but I just tried to imagine how monumentally huge the lower cup of a taper-headtube FSA Pig would be and almost blacked out.I had a 1.5" FSA Pig headset on my DH bike before I stripped it and fitted tapered forks with a less offensive headset. Yes thats 1.5 inches of monster FSA Pig Headset for upper and lower cups! I'm afraid I threw the 1.5" Pig headset cups in the bin shortly after removal, otherwise I would have posted them to the Tarty Bikes HQ for you to use as paper weights Not sure if it would be used on trials bikes but Cane Creek have recently released the AngleSet which allows you to adjust the head angle of a 1.5" steerer bike by +/- 0.5 to 1.5 degrees. The Cane Creek AngleSet is being supplied on some 2011 complete trail bikes. A similar product has been available at K9 Industries for a while however its limited to just 1 1/8 steerer forks. Modern DH bikes have 61-64 degree head angles (In its slackest setting the new new Commencal DH bike is 61.2 degrees!) so people are using these angle reducing cups on older frames to slacken them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I had a 1.5" FSA Pig headset on my DH bike before I stripped it and fitted tapered forks with a less offensive headset. Yes thats 1.5 inches of monster FSA Pig Headset for upper and lower cups! I'm afraid I threw the 1.5" Pig headset cups in the bin shortly after removal, otherwise I would have posted them to the Tarty Bikes HQ for you to use as paper weights No worries dude, I'd feel a little harsh bankrupting you with the postage costs anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MK999 Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I think I'm missing the joke but I'm guessing my headsets not very good lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bella Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 that cnc stuff cant be that good with rockmans reputation for snapping i recon thell go at the back end at the weld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 that cnc stuff cant be that good with rockmans reputation for snapping i recon thell go at the back end at the weld Whys that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 I've been considering the 1.5" tapered steerer myself recently too. Forks definitely seem one of the areas on the bike that hasn't seen any innovation in a while. I'm also surprised it's taken this long - good on Rockman for being the first to do it in trials (although what did Mission not do right? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK999 Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 (although what did Mission not do right? ) I'm not sure to be honest, enlighten me? Bottom bracket is rather low but it is an early frame And the bent top tube is cringeworthy in terms of idealism but I can't see it bending too much or snapping really. Basic engineering principles I can deal with, it's the application of them to the specifics of bikes I'm struggling with so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 (although what did Mission not do right? )The Mission bikes didn't have tapered steerers though. At the time you were limited to 1.5" steerers with a poor selection of stems and headsets so it never kicked off. Tapered steerers have only become necessary now that long travel single crown suspension forks are being made for freeride/DH. I wouldn't want to run single crown forks with over 160mm travel without a tapered steerer! I also wonder how long it will be until trials forks are developed that use a 15mm or 20mm Maxle system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Just seen mention of the new freewheels running a sealed bearing. I think this excites me more than the thought of another 40-odd engagements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 The Mission bikes didn't have tapered steerers though. At the time you were limited to 1.5" steerers with a poor selection of stems and headsets so it never kicked off. Tapered steerers have only become necessary now that long travel single crown suspension forks are being made for freeride/DH. I wouldn't want to run single crown forks with over 160mm travel without a tapered steerer! I also wonder how long it will be until trials forks are developed that use a 15mm or 20mm Maxle system... am i right in saying the new inspired 24 forks use either a 15 or 20mm thruaxle on their forks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 No, the Fourplay forks just use a normal axle. Danny's got some proto forks that use a through-axle, but the normal ones don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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