ZeroMatt Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Wow what an interesting and informative thread.... Needs more lobsterdog to be a truly great thread. Edited November 12, 2010 by ZeroMatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) I'd like to bring to the table, the IRA bombings in Manchester. The IRA are Irish, therefore all Irish people are my enemy. GET OUT MAH COUNTRY FOOOOOOOL! EDIT: Directed at some of the facebook comments I've seen more than the replies in here. Just made me giggle. Edited November 12, 2010 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) These people went to war and lost their lives, they should be remembered for that. That's what i've always been led to believe remembrance day is all about. That they gave the ultimate sacrifice. But what did they give sacrifice for? That's the point I'm getting at. I'm not denying that those who fought in the second world war did not do so for good reasons. I am however suggesting that modern warfare is a different kettle of fish with regards to intent and meaning. If I flip the circumstances slightly you should get my drift. Imagine a rememberance day by muslim extremists for their "fallen" (nice euphamism there); specifically those who have died in terrorist acts. How might people react to that? I can imagine many Brits taking a far more extreme approach than what actually occured at this rememberance day. Again, I'll emphasise, this isn't to say that all those who are referenced by our rememberance day are on par with terrorists but that servicemen and women of more modern times, no doubt mostly through ignorance, are fulfilling what honestly should be termed as "state terror". This is very serious and shares a definite relationship to extremist terror. If our motives, with regard to Iraq are aside from those claimed such as "liberation" and "pre-emptive strike" then something very sinister is happening and in terms of actual overall harm, we've greatly outdone all of the atrocity we so easily hate the other terrorists for. And to make sure this implict point isn't missed it should be noted that rememberance day is actually a diservice to the men and women who have lost their lives fighting unjust wars because it maintains the lie of what they were really fighting for. It masks the true waste of their lives which were lost for such insidious reasons. I never said deny all protesting, but aggressive protesting. Holding signs citing that people should die should not be tolerated, regardless of who does it. My bad there. I went back and checked what you said and I did misinterpret what you meant. The biting the hand that feeds them comment refers to them living in britain, protesting about british soldiers needing to die. If they have a problem with what is being done they should be taking it up in a respectful and dignified manner. Does Britian feed me as well? I certainly don't feel that's the case. I feel that there's more of a reciprical relationship. And anyway, what is Britian in this sense you mean? I'm not sure I find your argument to have much sense here. What I'm finding implicit however is the suggestion that muslims should be assumed to be recent immigrants probably claiming benefits? I think it's worth people being respectful to one another just because it's healthy not because there's some financial relationship. Edited November 12, 2010 by Ben Rowlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Wow what an interesting and informative thread.... Needs more lobsterdog to be a truly great thread. See page 3 for Bomber Cat. It's no Lobster Dog, but it's relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I'd like to bring to the table, the IRA bombings in Manchester. The IRA are Irish, therefore all Irish people are my enemy. GET OUT MAH COUNTRY FOOOOOOOL! EDIT: Directed at some of the facebook comments I've seen more than the replies in here. Just made me giggle. On top of that, some Welsh knobheads beat my mate in a few years ago, absolutely no need for it. So on that note, Welsh people, get out of Wales! oh wait, this theory is flawed... (extra "lol" for Tomms 'TLDR' comment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) I find it funny how many people are happy to get on their high horse about it, yet no-one has actually done anything except complain and 'blame the government'. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning what they did by any stretch of the imagination, but if it means that much to you ride that big high horse over to these extremists and let them know how you feel. If everyone who bitched and moaned about these events actually took some action, the events wouldn't happen. Guaranteed. I realise I'm pumping new gas into an old flame here, but surely we have the police for a reason? Ie: To prevent people causing offence and harm to others, which is something I definitely feel this comes under. When I've constantly got police breathing down my kneck walking the streets, why do I have no right to expect them to deal with shit like this? You're not the Croyden Sheriff, and you shouldn't have to be. And if your 'approaching them and debating it out' theory is such a next level method of flight, why do you always end up getting hate and telling them to f**k off? I'm guessing you've never actually swayed an extremist? The 'type' of person you'd normally think about who resides in the UK should be British, Irish and Scottish (not welsh). I don't mind that there are many different nationalities in the UK, that's not a problem. But I think that we should maybe use the same system as Australia, people have to have a trade or a skill to get into the country. f**king Welshies. Edited November 12, 2010 by Max Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 You know why they did it? Because we're in a load of countries, trying to sort out a load of shit that doesn't concern us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 But what did they give sacrifice for? That's the point I'm getting at. I'm not denying that those who fought in the second world war did not do so for good reasons. I am however suggesting that modern warfare is a different kettle of fish with regards to intent and meaning. If I flip the circumstances slightly you should get my drift. Imagine a rememberance day by muslim extremists for their "fallen" (nice euphamism there); specifically those who have died in terrorist acts. How might people react to that? I can imagine many Brits taking a far more extreme approach than what actually occured at this rememberance day. Again, I'll emphasise, this isn't to say that all those who are referenced by our rememberance day are on par with terrorists but that servicemen and women of more modern times, no doubt mostly through ignorance, are fulfilling what honestly should be termed as "state terror". This is very serious and shares a definite relationship to extremist terror. If our motives, with regard to Iraq are aside from those claimed such as "liberation" and "pre-emptive strike" then something very sinister is happening and in terms of actual overall harm, we've greatly outdone all of the atrocity we so easily hate the other terrorists for. And to make sure this implict point isn't missed it should be noted that rememberance day is actually a diservice to the men and women who have lost their lives fighting unjust wars because it maintains the lie of what they were really fighting for. It masks the true waste of their lives which were lost for such insidious reasons. Well i'd always envisaged it as anybody in the british forces, of any religion, being remembered for their death. No matter the underlying causes of war. I did read something about a muslim day of remembrance and (although i can't quite remember it) the day was planned to happen in one of the towns that had the biggest losses of soldiers in the recent war, or something similarly untactful. Does Britian feed me as well? I certainly don't feel that's the case. I feel that there's more of a reciprical relationship. And anyway, what is Britian in this sense you mean? I'm not sure I find your argument to have much sense here. What I'm finding implicit however is the suggestion that muslims should be assumed to be recent immigrants probably claiming benefits? I think it's worth people being respectful to one another just because it's healthy not because there's some financial relationship. It's a metaphor to do with dogs biting their owners. The difference is you aren't (or at least i hope you aren't) going round in demonstrations stating that british soldiers need to die. The "them" i'm referring to are the particular people involved in that demonstration. My earlier quip about benefits etc was a dig at the stereotyping done by the daily mail, which i hoped was symbolised by me calling it the daily fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Yeah they planned a protest in Wooton Bassett. A few hundred thousand overly proud Brits started some hate groups on Facebook and those that are generally dumb posted stuff like "Kill all da Muslims! fukkin scumbag waster scrounging knts!". Standard knee-jerk reaction to any stories involving Muslims really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 The 'type' of person you'd normally think about who resides in the UK should be British, Irish and Scottish (not welsh). Hmm, its lucky for you that I don't think that the 'type' of person who should be a member of this forum should be anyone apart from people from Oxfordshire. I guess you must feel fairly uncomfortable regularly taking part in a website thats hosted in Germany and part run by Welsh people? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronz Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 …Standard knee-jerk reaction to any stories involving Muslims really... Yup yup. England flags during the World Cup anyone? It's a time where closet racists openly say f**king stupid and bigoted things under the guise of patriotism Hmm, its lucky for you that I don't think that the 'type' of person who should be a member of this forum should be anyone apart from people from Oxfordshire. I guess you must feel fairly uncomfortable regularly taking part in a website thats hosted in Germany and part run by Welsh people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Hmm, its lucky for you that I don't think that the 'type' of person who should be a member of this forum should be anyone apart from people from Oxfordshire. I guess you must feel fairly uncomfortable regularly taking part in a website thats hosted in Germany and part run by Welsh people? Hahaha, All hail the Welsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Watch. Listen. Learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) We should all go back to Africa, all of us. Edit: Actually lets all get back in the sea. Edited November 12, 2010 by casualjoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Tea Why Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) . Edited August 11, 2021 by Mat Tea Why 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Lets all take a moment to enjoy the student riots Precedent is set - If you don't like immigration policy just go smash shit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Lets all take a moment to enjoy the student riots Precedent is set - If you don't like immigration policy just go smash shit up. And how many of the ones being vandals were actually students? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Student riots Maybe if the NHS stopped treating fat people and smokers there's be some money left over. Stupid fat people 'It's not my fault, I have a disease..' Awful excuse, should go and lose some weight digging their own grave then jump in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 And how many of the ones being vandals were actually students? I'd say the majority to be honest, you think all students are all about love & peace? You've only gotta look at somewhere like Reading festival to see a bunch of middle class kids being absolutely riotous just because of mob mentality, What i find a bit wierd is that it doesn't even effect current students Yet it was ALL people my age etc marching rather than the people a few years below who would actually be affected by it. I'm all for caring about other people, but knowing a load of the people that went, I'm sure they don't actually give that much of a shit. They just wanna get involved and f**k about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 And how many of the ones being vandals were actually students? definitely all the muslim ones.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 definitely all the muslim ones.... I love you! Anyway, this thread went waaaay out of hand. I was never stereotyping all Muslims as cnts, like those protesters. And also, in no way have I said that us Brits have done jackshit wrong. Because we all have. They're in our country for our cheap labour and council benifits. We're in their countries shooting the f**k out of every moving object. The title is very misleading, as I'm about to change it. I didn't mean it in that way, and I'm not a racist. I was just furiated and didn't think before I acted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 They're in our country for our cheap labour and council benifits. We're in their countries shooting the f**k out of every moving object. /ignorance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 We're in their countries shooting the f**k out of every moving object. Except for Bin Laden, that would just be racist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Maybe if the NHS stopped treating fat people and smokers there's be some money left over. Stupid fat people 'It's not my fault, I have a disease..' Awful excuse, should go and lose some weight digging their own grave then jump in it. Sir, in two posts you've jumped from Muslims --> Students --> Fat people & Smokers. Any other minorities you feel it's important to list and whine about? Might one suggest single parents, hippies and gays? (I don't think the NHS should treat people who are stupid enough to injure themselves doing pointless tricks on a bike, but that's a different topic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I belive that everyone without a pure blood line should just be labeled "brown" the commy Russians also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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