Kenny--Trials Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Hey everyone, I got some HS33 coust pads a while ago now. They weren't as good as someone else's HS33 coust pads, but i thought they were just bedding in. They are CNC backed. It has now been 2 months and they are still rubbish. Have i done something wrong which i wasnt aware of? Thanks. Edited November 6, 2010 by Kenny--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Styles Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 brake set up makes a difference... brake clamps, the frame, and the rim all make a difference to the way the pad will perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Something is evidently lacking somewhere else then. Rim. Grind. Brake setup. Bleed. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_ruskin Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Are they original Cousts? or CoustSinks? (the heatsink brand) as if your fiend has original and you have coustsinks then yours will be worse as the proper Coust pads are a lot better than the new ones. If its not that, try changing rim? new grind? booster/no booster depending on your frame? set pads square? Hope this helps Edited November 6, 2010 by onza limey20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEvil270183 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 As you both have the same pads, probably more down to the rim or brake set up. Could be dirt, bad grind or no grind, bad set up or even bleed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Kenny i told you this, they were at very bad agles at first, you've now sorted them out, right? so they probally need to bed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted November 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Are they original Cousts? and CoustSinks? (the heatsink brand) This is probably the reason Great .... what a waste of £32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_ruskin Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 This is probably the reason Great .... what a waste of £32 Ouch, unlucky dude, if you want good pads, get Rockpads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted November 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Ouch, unlucky dude, if you want good pads, get Rockpads Will the rockpad refils fit in the heatsink CNC's?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_ruskin Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) With some modification i bet they would, they are the only pads I haven't run in other company's backings, I have managed to fit Heatsinks in Rockpad backings, Tnns in Heatsink backings etc. so im sure you could get rocks to fit into Heatsink backings. Edited November 6, 2010 by onza limey20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted November 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 With some modification i bet they would, they are the only pads I haven't run in other company's backings, I have managed to fit Heatsinks in Rockpad backings, Tnns in Heatsink backings etc. so im sure you could get rocks to fit into Heatsink backings. Okay. Thanks for everybody's help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab shropshire Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 i use coustsinks on my front vee, they have an good hold a dangerous amount of bite and ear bleeding noise, and the setup is less than perfect, you must be doing something wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Are they original Cousts? or CoustSinks? (the heatsink brand) as if your fiend has original and you have coustsinks then yours will be worse as the proper Coust pads are a lot better than the new ones. If its not that, try changing rim? new grind? booster/no booster depending on your frame? set pads square? Hope this helps No idea where you got that shit from 'cos Steve has stated multiple times it is the exact same material as original cousts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupintart Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 No idea where you got that shit from 'cos Steve has stated multiple times it is the exact same material as original cousts +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 i use coustsinks on my front vee, they have an good hold a dangerous amount of bite and ear bleeding noise, and the setup is less than perfect, you must be doing something wrong Same here, whilst there are rumours that the "original" coust material is apparantly different and better than the coustsinks, theyre still damn good pads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I can't stress how important it is to have the pads square to the rim for the best performance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) I'm going to risk saying that probably less than 10% of brake problems can be attributed to the pads themselves. The remaining 90% is the grind, condition of the surface of the rim, pad setup, brake mounts, booster, bleed etc. You can even mess up the braking performance by grinding a rim incorrectly. edit, Oh and if Steve says that he gets his Coust compound from Michael then that's the truth. If there is any difference between the so called original Cousts and HSB Cousts (which is actually only a rumour since I don't think anybody has performed a direct comparison) it can only be attributed to Michael Coustelliers actions. Edited November 8, 2010 by Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 edit, Oh and if Steve says that he gets his Coust compound from Michael then that's the truth. If there is any difference between the so called original Cousts and HSB Cousts (which is actually only a rumour since I don't think anybody has performed a direct comparison) it can only be attributed to Michael Coustelliers actions. Im not accusing steve, im just asking what i was doing wrong. i was just curious because mine didnt work in the wet but someone elses did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex-trials-boy Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Thought you said they were good now, we made shure they were straight, i re-bled your brake and then you put some tar on a med. grind and your running a booster whats wrong lol my heatsink yellow are fantastic. EVERY ONE GO BUY SOME HEATSINK YELLOWS IN CNC BACKS, that also go's for you kenny just get refills of them not rock blues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Tar on a grind? Are you special? Tar on a grind is the same as tar on smooth and the wet performance is destroyed 'cos of the tar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Tar on a grind? Are you special? Tar on a grind is the same as tar on smooth and the wet performance is destroyed 'cos of the tar. Tar was a last resort. I already had the grind and my brakes didn't work in the wet anyway. I may has well had tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy-C Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Use Tar!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Use Tar!! I do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 If you use tar then you might as well sand your rim back to smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Limburn Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 This is probably the reason Great .... what a waste of £32 HAHAHAHAHA this made me laugh so much. Coustsinks are awesome when set up correctly. The pads are not the problem. Their performance in the wet is also very good so check everything else that people have suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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