LEON Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 At last Marino now uses lightweight but super strong 4130 cro mo tubes, the first thing I noticed was the weight, the old mild steel ones weighed 5.5 - 5.6 lbs, this one is 4.9! I'm no weight weenie but it really does help, feels no heavier than my zebdi, and for anyone who still thinks 4.9 is heavy, a koxx levelboss weighs 5lbs, and the Pashley 26GHZ weighs 5.5! So a huge improvement there. And this is still for a fraction of the cost of any other custom frame builder I've ever heard of, finish quality & paint even seem to have improved since the first frames, seriously impressed. It basically feels like an expensive production frame, but made to my extremely picky specifications! Marino got every detail spot on, wheelbase, chainstays, even BB height, which can vary with fork length, tyre profile, even bottom headset cup height. Riding it reminds me of the old bikes of the past that you can't buy anymore, feels like I'm on my old norco, without the 400mm chainstays lol. Geo is.... 1015 wb with pashley fork -10mm bb 70 deg head angle 385mm stays 120mm headtube v bosses at 85mm Max tyre clearance The pics do the paint no justice, I don't know why I'd never seen this colour, I copied Ross's from one of his old Marino's. Got it set up perfect as in the pic, so now to ride it hard & start filming, it's been too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Bloody lovely properly old school set up and geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Clean looking lines but im not a fan of the geo as i would personally prefer something more progressive like the Inspired Fourplay/Hex. Colour reminds me of Ryan Leech's old Norco steed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 What the f**k am I reading indeed. Get out there and ride it like you stole it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 That is Cool and The Gang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 I know you might be trying to keep it old-school, but that's TOO old-school. We measure weight in kilograms now Lovely lookin' bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 When are you gonna get out and ride it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Looks awesome as normal with most of your rigs Leon. Makes me look back with rose tinted specs to the good old days! Shame you cant readily buy bikes like that anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John - Hynes Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 That looks fantastic! Seriously old-skool. BB drop is something you just don't see anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 not keen on the geo (slack head angle and long stem? surly a steaper head angle and shorter stem rides better?), but it has a seat so that's win in my book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted October 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Cheers everyone! Joe i've had 3 or 4 rides this week when the weather's allowed me, I'm ready now so I'll ride whenever! (I don't do wet) Bender b, cheers! I know what you mean, but in a way maybe it's a good thing we have to go custom now, as we can now get everything we want, as much as I loved my old frames, each one had at least 1 thing that I'd have changed, Zebdi needed a slacker head angle. Zero needed a decent rear end with proper tyre clearance. Norco needed about an inch off the chainstays. Curtis needed about 4 degrees less head angle & shorter stays. Ben, cheers, -10 seems perfect for what I do on a bike, 2 frames ago I had 0mm rise, and that petty 10mm increase felt like I was being forced to lean over the front of the bike, opposite of what I'm after and really couldn't get the bars high enough to counter it, manuals felt unstable, it even vaguely reminded me of a GU typhoon, bad for me lol. If the bb is too high, there's absolutely nothing you can do, at least if it's too low you can lower your bars, get longer forks, chunkier headset/tyres, there are a few options to give small increases/decreases, but chainstay length & bb height are terminal Ali the stem's only 90mm lol, pretty much what I've always used. A steeper head angle would just give me a longer top tube & work against me, the bike's made to pull up effortlessly, the shorter stems I've tried put my hands too far back, this combo gives the best foot-handdistance and is virtually the same front end I've used on my norco, zebdi's etc. I hate steep head angles, I had a curtis T1 for a day and was shocked someone would build such a short bike (good for bunnyhops) with such a steep head angle (crap for bunnyhops) I've always preferred slacker, though mine's not as slack as a Zero. Edited October 31, 2010 by LEON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Jones Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Woooop! Leon is back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 bloody hell leon another one hopefully this one will last longer than a month before you decide its 2mm out and need another one haha looking good though mate have to get everyone out for a ride again like last month ride soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEON Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Noo this one's spot on, I just thought I knew everything about geometry with the last ones & I didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Finally stopped catching MRSA then? Looks ace dude, really good to have you back. We need a decent local ride soon (on a saturday...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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