dirt jumper jake Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 evening all, my mate has got an onza ice ( he dont come on here) and basically hes been trying to get his brake setup allright for ages. tried everything, changing pads, rebleeding, regrinding and its still shit. anyone else have this problem on ice frames? his setup is: onza diamond rim, 4 finger lever on water bled maggie & LGMs on light grind currently. tried baeleys and they were shit, and koxx browns were shit aswell. anyone shed some light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balls Deep trials team Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 evening all, my mate has got an onza ice ( he dont come on here) and basically hes been trying to get his brake setup allright for ages. tried everything, changing pads, rebleeding, regrinding and its still shit. anyone else have this problem on ice frames? his setup is: onza diamond rim, 4 finger lever on water bled maggie & LGMs on light grind currently. tried baeleys and they were shit, and koxx browns were shit aswell. anyone shed some light? use a brake booster as the ice frame flexes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 You have to let pads and grinds bed in, so if you're constantly switching them around and changing things it's not going to help. Unless your pad setup's absolutely perfect they're going to wear at a bit of an angle, and if you don't match that angle when you put them on a new frame then it's going to feel a bit poo 'til they wear to that angle. Everyone's really hasty to switch things around, but usually just giving things a little bit of time helps a lot. Basically - if the pads move as soon as you put any pressure on the lever, that sorta suggests there's no air in the system, and you don't need a re-bleed. If you've just ground the rim, then a quick feel of it by hand should be enough to let you know if it needs grinding again (unless you've done it wrong, it won't). If you've got a good set of pads (e.g. the LGMs or Try-Alls), then they will work well, it's just a case of the setup being right and them being bedded in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispyboy Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 You have to let pads and grinds bed in, so if you're constantly switching them around and changing things it's not going to help. Unless your pad setup's absolutely perfect they're going to wear at a bit of an angle, and if you don't match that angle when you put them on a new frame then it's going to feel a bit poo 'til they wear to that angle. Everyone's really hasty to switch things around, but usually just giving things a little bit of time helps a lot... The Boys done that he ran the same pad for 2 rides and it was terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 They're not particularly soft pads though, so if they are worn at an angle like I said before it'll take a little while to get them worn in. Depending on how he rides/what he's riding, '2 rides' might not be enough possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispyboy Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 They're not particularly soft pads though, so if they are worn at an angle like I said before it'll take a little while to get them worn in. Depending on how he rides/what he's riding, '2 rides' might not be enough possibly. Brand new lgm 1 mm of metal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 I don't really get the 1mm of metal bit, but again, if they're not worn to the angle of the rim (if the pad's not perfectly square, if it's new...) then it won't feel great straight away, and it will take a while to get working properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 I don't really get the 1mm of metal bit, he means 1mm away from the backing, as in 1mm left of material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Sounds pretty worn out for 'brand new' pads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispyboy Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 I don't really get the 1mm of metal bit, but again, if they're not worn to the angle of the rim (if the pad's not perfectly square, if it's new...) then it won't feel great straight away, and it will take a while to get working properly. Hes had loads of different pads all worn to rim maybe needs a booster on frame Sounds pretty worn out for 'brand new' pads? The boy runs tpa on so pads run to annoy people around town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 The boy runs tpa on so pads run to annoy people around town maybe this is the problem? what clamps is he using? if he's got old style mounts with the C washer the washer might have deformed and that usually makes the slaves return to the same point when you tighten the bolts, however running his brake nonstop will kill any grind and make it a turd braking surface. that said if he just behaves like a dick you could stop helping him and hope he f**ks off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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