Phatmike Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 All the Phatpads (and similar ) that I have tried have had great bite, I think I can compare them with Coust pads performance wise, great bite, but lacking hold....are you using a booster? and I agree that the wet weather performance is pretty good, another reason I liked it when I was running vees. Heheh, Yeah - I definitely run a booster. I agree without a booster they can perform with more bite and less hold. TGS riders have found this set-up works really well for them. (And also on smooth rims 'with a bit of tar') For max hold (and no annoying noise), they should be on a grind, set up straight (as ever!), with a stiff brake (frame and or booster), and ideally a long lever blade too. This will provide the best hold, and the most reliable brake. We also have many, many riders using the pads on decent grinds, and a relatively flexy brake that still get great hold (and I'm sure they'd be happy to comment on this regard!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Back to replying the old question. Get the LGMs Im running Belaey right now because my local shop didn't have LGMs and Belaeys suck soo much! LGMs I had lasted for eight months, worked in wet, and even when contamintated with Magura blood. They didnt need fresh grind either, I grind my rim once a month and they worked good. God damn it I miss LGMs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Lgms seem okay but something that needs absolute perfectness isnt good. With something like hs yellows any kind of grind is good. Yellows are by far the best pad out but i havent tried lgms and dont want to to be honest. They shouldnt be the price they are. From the experience I have had with belaeys (werent mine) is they are utterly shocking. To someone who asked me earlier, the grind was fresh with no contamination and an amazing bleed, 100% square and deffinitly bedded in. I couldnt trust them cos they felt like the were gonna slip back on me and a shocking bite. To anybody who says they are good with tar, so are maggy blacks. Really want to try phatpds as if what mike says is true they sound like the perfect pad, so wil ne ordering some of them and probably along with phatphluid when it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 My heatsink yellows have deterioted dramatically lately. Not sure why. Fresh grind, recent water bleed, pads sanded down. So I'm thinking of going LGM after so many good reviews of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 My heatsink yellows have deterioted dramatically lately. Not sure why. Fresh grind, recent water bleed, pads sanded down. So I'm thinking of going LGM after so many good reviews of them. Possibly got a slightly lazy piston? even once sanding down the pads oil could still be in tem if they were contaminated cos rubber sucks up oil. You could just get new hs yellows? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 By 'suck' do you mean absorb because I really don't think you're right there! However you might be on to something regarding the lazy piston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Lgms seem okay but something that needs absolute perfectness isnt good. With something like hs yellows any kind of grind is good. Yellows are by far the best pad out but i havent tried lgms and dont want to to be honest. They shouldnt be the price they are. From the experience I have had with belaeys (werent mine) is they are utterly shocking. To someone who asked me earlier, the grind was fresh with no contamination and an amazing bleed, 100% square and deffinitly bedded in. I couldnt trust them cos they felt like the were gonna slip back on me and a shocking bite. To anybody who says they are good with tar, so are maggy blacks. Really want to try phatpds as if what mike says is true they sound like the perfect pad, so wil ne ordering some of them and probably along with phatphluid when it comes out. I would try Heatsink if or when Tarty stocks them.. I had so many people Paypaling him money then not getting anything.. and having to talk to Paypal to get the money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I must admit, I have never used Heatsink Yellow pads, they do sound good (despite most people who swear by them being relatively new riders ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I won't use any pads other than TNN LGMs. Out of 4 of us who ride together all the time, all of us use LGMs. We've tried every pad under the sun. Not sure what people are doing to make them not work, but ours are consistently excellent, and we don't regrind every morning, they get chucked about and only reground after a puncture/new tyre usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I must admit, I have never used Heatsink Yellow pads, they do sound good (despite most people who swear by them being relatively new riders ) hey! aha, i been riding a decent amount of time ill have you know lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 without sounding rude, how long have you been riding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 The Yellows take ages to bed in though! 15 mins is not aggges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) without sounding rude, how long have you been riding? I lost count not over 1 year, i got my bike last august but didnt ride at all when it was snowing, and was stuck inside all the time... 6-7 months? edit - but still i know my fair share of trials Edited October 25, 2010 by Kieran Morrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Fair enough, but Ali has been riding for like 11 years?! Trials is a completely different ball game after about 6 years. Your perception of 'good' things become completely different. Just because a brake holds on a 1 foot ledge you've just gapped to doesn't mean you will hae confidence gapping down to a downward sloping rock 6 foot in the air (for example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-comp-kierz Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I lost count not over 1 year, i got my bike last august but didnt ride at all when it was snowing, and was stuck inside all the time... 6-7 months? edit - but still i know my fair share of trials No way have you been riding 6-7 months... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Without looking at your watch, how long have you been riding? Mended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab shropshire Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 he got his first bike for his birthday which was just over a year ago but didnt do much riding till after the winter, so probably around 8 months or so. anyway back on topic as kieran said i had to swap my tnn's over for my heatsinks mid ride on saturday, i'm not saying tnn's are inferior I just didn't have any confidence in them, at times they would perform quite well but then all of a sudden they would just stop holding then it would slowly come back again, so i thought their performance was not concistant enough for my liking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Fair enough, but Ali has been riding for like 11 years?! 13, will be my 14th year riding trials this winter, it amuses me that I have been riding longer than some new riders (Kieran?) have been alive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 15 mins is not aggges I have to try them again then! Cheers for the info mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt.price Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Mended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 All in all TNN definitely assed up on the Belaey pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John - Hynes Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 haha, they are some of the worst I have used for a vee I love mine on the front with a vee. rubber sucks up oil. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I love mine on the front with a vee. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, what? Wrong words... It like soaks it into the pad if you know what i mean. And yeah, i stopped riding in december 09, cos of snow, then started around april. Anyway, back on topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 what was the topic again? Something about people age? Edit, or was it about Lobsterdogs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Hmm... It was erm...eh...was about.... Lobsterdogs! You were right Ali! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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