Ben John - Hynes Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 :| I suppose someone had to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hulud Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I won't use any pads other than TNN LGMs. Out of 4 of us who ride together all the time, all of us use LGMs. We've tried every pad under the sun. Not sure what people are doing to make them not work, but ours are consistently excellent, and we don't regrind every morning, they get chucked about and only reground after a puncture/new tyre usually. Ditto. Almost everyone I ride with uses LGMs and they all work fantastic, even on dull grinds. I can't understand how they don't work for some people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGAN ?? Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Ditto. Almost everyone I ride with uses LGMs and they all work fantastic, even on dull grinds. I can't understand how they don't work for some people? I think it's just down to the rider not the pad itself, I struggled to get my tnns working well at first, iv been riding like 4 years so I obviously know how to set a brake up and all that jazz but iv only recently started using grinds and I think a light grind with a thin disk us deffo the best thing for it, atleast with lgms anyway, it's the best brake iv had to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weebryan Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) Yea got to remember the other factors : Frame, Rim type, Clamps, Booster, Grind type, Brake system can all have an effect. You got to play around a little like ali c said, every one is different My past favs were koxx browns but I have tried Koxx yellow coust cnc,heats sinks red and blues all on differant frames, rims, grinds over the years and was not over impsressed but tried lgm and was feeling the same so tried some boosters 2 and 4 bolt still the same until i tried the tnn clamps and booster then thought wow wish i bought these ages ago, even in wet i feel safe still the same noise performance will never change to anything else more than happy and impressed they work to my high standards beeing a mechy engineer Check out my pink bike page to see all bikes set ups Edited October 26, 2010 by weebryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) Ive tried: koxx browns, heatsink snowys, heatsink reds, plaz spanish fly, plaz crm & lgms. Lgms are definately the best ive ever used, although they do have there shit periods (?) But after i reground the rim theyre nuts, well worth the money, kick every other pads ass. but if you can get hold of them crm are pretty damn good aswell. Edited October 26, 2010 by dirt jumper jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Maggie pads are a weird thing. I don't know why people are saying bealeys suck, they are about the only pads I trusted along with rock blues. I had LGM, they worked amazingly, for a while, then went shit, anyone got an idea why? Wasnt the grind by the way. Wear rate on them is amazing by the way beat I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraPalmer Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) people usually don´t take the rim into consideration, which makes a lot of difference; what i found out for me (hydroxx LT, TNN clamps, no booster): TNN on TryAll rims - not good, kill the grind fast, very poor hold; not to compare with Cousts(original) or Heatsinks (whites). TNN (LGM and B.) on TrialTech rims: the best performance i have ever felt: agressive bite, tons of hold; LGM even seemed to have too much bite to ride them properly; B. are perfect - in all conditions... Edited October 26, 2010 by wimmeretz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 people usually don´t take the rim into consideration, which makes a lot of difference; what i found out for me (hydroxx LT, TNN clamps, no booster): TNN on TryAll rims - not good, kill the grind fast, very poor hold; not to compare with Cousts(original) or Heatsinks (whites). TNN (LGM and B.) on TrialTech rims: the best performance i have ever felt: agressive bite, tons of hold; LGM even seemed to have too much bite to ride them properly; B. are perfect - in all conditions... you know Try-all and trialtech rims are pretty much the same? at least the older double wall versions anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonganut Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 wow this topic is boring what pads are best bla bla blad heatsink or phat pads and maybe lgms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauraPalmer Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 you know Try-all and trialtech rims are pretty much the same? at least the older double wall versions anyway. i was referring to TryAll hole and TrialTech SL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Ordered some LGM's today from tarty. Will see how I find them and post here with my initial thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Ali, decided with the bad weather too have a play with my brake, got the grinder out fan sanding disc smoothed my rim. light grind, LGM pad's work not bad If im honest, Phat work and hold as good if not better they just lack the bite the tnn offer. deepened the grind slightly too ride out in the rain, Id say more a light medium. The tnn still have that amazing bite in the wet as they do in the dry resulting too as good braking in both wet and dry, The phat dont feel as good but do still work. Think im going too stick too this grind and the tnn's for a while and see what thats like for me, Thank's Ali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGAN ?? Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Tried a lighter grind myself after reading that and can definatley say that the brake has improved on all counts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 heatsink or phat pads and maybe lgms i think we established that, ( wow, a big word for me!) but now he will be asking what one of those 3, which causes another arguement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryallmaster Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Ali, decided with the bad weather too have a play with my brake, got the grinder out fan sanding disc smoothed my rim. light grind, LGM pad's work not bad If im honest, Phat work and hold as good if not better they just lack the bite the tnn offer. deepened the grind slightly too ride out in the rain, Id say more a light medium. The tnn still have that amazing bite in the wet as they do in the dry resulting too as good braking in both wet and dry, The phat dont feel as good but do still work. Think im going too stick too this grind and the tnn's for a while and see what thats like for me, Thank's Ali. This is what it is all about... an openess to try suggestions rather than just saying no because you had a bad experience... Great reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Yellow Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 the thing with pads I found is sometimes people will have a bit of a bad batch, and the same pads I've heard people have with a very similar set up have had a very different performance. and there's so many possibilities to make a bad brake combo. my Belaey's are amazing with a mid grind and as long as I keep it clean and brake set up right, it's got excellent bite and alright hold. it does eat grinds a little but it's ok at the moment with a worn down grind and I'm not complaining. I think a lot of people here haven't used enough pads to make a real comparison. and that goes for me as well. but as someone that has used TNN's I can't ask for more and I would recommend. I might be wrong and I am completely missing out on all the other AMAZING pads out there but I am happy so meh. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 If anyone wants to try some baeyleys I've got some will chuck in some LGMs too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 TNN LGMs > All Thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 the thing with pads I found is sometimes people will have a bit of a bad batch, and the same pads I've heard people have with a very similar set up have had a very different performance. and there's so many possibilities to make a bad brake combo. my Belaey's are amazing with a mid grind and as long as I keep it clean and brake set up right, it's got excellent bite and alright hold. it does eat grinds a little but it's ok at the moment with a worn down grind and I'm not complaining. I think a lot of people here haven't used enough pads to make a real comparison. and that goes for me as well. but as someone that has used TNN's I can't ask for more and I would recommend. I might be wrong and I am completely missing out on all the other AMAZING pads out there but I am happy so meh. Steve exactly this...im still relatively new to the scene though and on my bike have only used rockman blues and now the belays (on essentially a dead grind). biggest point to note for both in my opinion is the effect of contaminants. with the rockmans, cleaning just the pad (it was pretty dirty) turned the brake from a 3/10 to easily 8+/10.....similar with the belays, but when they are clean, they are much better than the blues, personally - im sticking with belays from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedwayRider Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 exactly this...im still relatively new to the scene though and on my bike have only used rockman blues and now the belays (on essentially a dead grind). biggest point to note for both in my opinion is the effect of contaminants. with the rockmans, cleaning just the pad (it was pretty dirty) turned the brake from a 3/10 to easily 8+/10.....similar with the belays, but when they are clean, they are much better than the blues, personally - im sticking with belays from now on Yes, This is 100% Correct I Think More People Should Try Some Belaey's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 (edited) From my experience I have come to learn that it is a lot more down to set up than just the pads. In the past, especially when I rode mod, I mostly used to run try-all rims. I used to be able to get an ok brake but nothing particulalr amazing. I would go through pads seeing if there would be much of a difference but there wasn't. Since the return to stock I got myself some tr rims and returned to using phat pads. Previously when used they were lack in hold quite a bit. The brake I have now is rather awesome and I haven't really changed much to previous set ups apart from the rim but this time they perform a whole lot better. ATM I would possibly consider them to be the best pads I have used but then again I wouldn't like to compare them to others cause it would be unfair. For example in the past crocos were better than phats on the poorer performing same set up. With the right set up I don't think you can go far wrong with what pads you get, obviously as long as they are suitable etc. For reference I have used, tnn lgms, phat pads, croco yellow, croco brown, rock pads, echo greens, hs yellow, ozonys, Maggie blacks, adamant, kool stops, and probably a few others. Of them I'd reccomend either tnns, phat pads or crocos and I'll say it again, with the correct set up. Edited October 27, 2010 by Duncy H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I agree just be sure to stay away from the Belaey pads. f**k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt.price Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I agree just be sure to stay away from the Belaey pads. f**k. i like my belaey's !!! They have good hold and brilliant bite ! And this is on a dull grind ! Just gave my rim and light grind ! Soon has i build my bike up with my new frame , i'll let you know how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 just whack on magura blacks and a savage grind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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