MedwayRider Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 should i get LGM's or should i get some belaey's ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Im not sure if id recomend tnn. The greens sound epic and have such a good bite however they do tend too let you down on taps and such moves ( slip back) The blue ones again work not bad however the bites pretty poor and dont do much in the wet weather even with a little water on the rim's. also both pads eat grinds. Phat works is where its at if you want value for money I.e. long lasting pads, long lasting grinds, good hold and bite, all weather pad's. cant go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt.price Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 should i get LGM's or should i get some belaey's ?? i got belaeys and they're amazing ! havent tried the lgm's but i would guess been as the belaeys are newer they would be upgraded.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedwayRider Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 thanks i think i'm gonna stick with belaey's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 i got belaeys and they're amazing ! havent tried the lgm's but i would guess been as the belaeys are newer they would be upgraded.. Both have there up side's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Phat works is where its at if you want value for money I.e. long lasting pads, long lasting grinds, good hold and bite, all weather pad's. cant go wrong. They were before the compound changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Try-All Crocos, they're amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 TNN beleays are terrible. My uncle had them on for 3 days, the hold was okay but it felt like the brake was just going to fail and there was no sound or bite. LGM's I have never tried although some people say they are good some say there bad. IMO, TNN is not the best pad out there, and for £30 you would expect better than phatpads or HS yellows but no.... Heatsink yellows or the new phat pads seem good. Not TNN. Unless used with tar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I have Belaey on the front and LGM on the rear. The LGM sure slip back on taps etc... But they have excellent bite and hold. I'd say go for it. Or for Coust as they still are the best pads out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Im not sure if id recomend tnn. The greens sound epic and have such a good bite however they do tend too let you down on taps and such moves ( slip back) The blue ones again work not bad however the bites pretty poor and dont do much in the wet weather even with a little water on the rim's. also both pads eat grinds. Phat works is where its at if you want value for money I.e. long lasting pads, long lasting grinds, good hold and bite, all weather pad's. cant go wrong. couldn't disagree more. I have just been using Phat material (didn't have any tnn pads) and have just swapped to LGM material on the same bike, same brake, same grind, so I had a direct comparison. The Phatpad material is great for bite, the grind I had was very light and I was surprised by how loud the brake was. The hold was pretty poor though, it would slip through unless I pulled extra hard, this has been my experience every time I have used that compound (and also the reason why I love it for vee brakes). When I put the LGM pads on (as I said, same grind etc) the bite was also very good, possibly better than the Phats but the hold was noticeably better, the brake honked both forwards and backwards rather than a honk forwards but a "whooosh" backwards on the Phats. I found both compounds work well in the wet too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt.price Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 TNN beleays are terrible. My uncle had them on for 3 days, the hold was okay but it felt like the brake was just going to fail and there was no sound or bite. LGM's I have never tried although some people say they are good some say there bad. IMO, TNN is not the best pad out there, and for £30 you would expect better than phatpads or HS yellows but no.... Heatsink yellows or the new phat pads seem good. Not TNN. Unless used with tar. i love my belaeys ! they're amazing in dry ! no sound though.. ( no grind though) in wet they are pretty good ! im sure when i grind my rim soon they will be amazing in wet aswell ! bite is amazing none the less ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 couldn't disagree more. I have just been using Phat material (didn't have any tnn pads) and have just swapped to LGM material on the same bike, same brake, same grind, so I had a direct comparison. The Phatpad material is great for bite, the grind I had was very light and I was surprised by how loud the brake was. The hold was pretty poor though, it would slip through unless I pulled extra hard, this has been my experience every time I have used that compound (and also the reason why I love it for vee brakes). When I put the LGM pads on (as I said, same grind etc) the bite was also very good, possibly better than the Phats but the hold was noticeably better, the brake honked both forwards and backwards rather than a honk forwards but a "whooosh" backwards on the Phats. I found both compounds work well in the wet too. Have too hold my hands up wasent aware phat had changed the compound, I've just moved back onto some old phat I had from years back. . . How come you stopped making your pad's? yours used too rock..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 i love my belaeys ! they're amazing in dry ! no sound though.. ( no grind though) in wet they are pretty good ! im sure when i grind my rim soon they will be amazing in wet aswell ! bite is amazing none the less ! Well my uncle put a fresh grind on it too and didnt improve it whatsoever. He litteraly got so annoyed with them he changed them mid-ride yesterday lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Have too hold my hands up wasent aware phat had changed the compound, I've just moved back onto some old phat I had from years back. . . How come you stopped making your pad's? yours used too rock..... I was talking about the same material you used. There are reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Have too hold my hands up wasent aware phat had changed the compound Yerp me and ryan tested new and old fat pads on his bike, exactly the same conditions with both and the new ones were noticeabley shitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_ruskin Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 TNN beleays are terrible. My uncle had them on for 3 days, the hold was okay but it felt like the brake was just going to fail and there was no sound or bite. Mine were like this for a while, it will have been due to, a dull grind, or contamination. Tyre grime can make these pads lose performance hugely, he would have needed to clean the rim or ideally give it a fresh deep grind and the pads would have bedded in instantly. I'm using them at the moment and they are great, they can be a bit annoying as they get contaminated so easily, but great bite and hold all round. I would still say rockpads are better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Yerp me and ryan tested new and old fat pads on his bike, exactly the same conditions with both and the new ones were noticeabley shitter Thats a shitter then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-comp-kierz Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Well my uncle put a fresh grind on it too and didnt improve it whatsoever. He litteraly got so annoyed with them he changed them mid-ride yesterday lol Maybe they weren't worn in properlly? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I'm loving LGMs at the mo, they're performing far better than my phatpads were in all conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 They were before the compound changed They haven't changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 let's put it another way. When working at Tarty, I had nearly all the pads in the market at my disposal, I have tried pretty much everything out there. when it came to get a pad sponsor It just had to be TNN! Before I was sponsored by them, they were my choice of pads. I could have gotten any pads at Tarty for next to nothing but I still chose to spend more and get the TNNs. I even chose not to run the material I used to get from the states for next to nothing (worked out at around 18p a pad) which is the same as Phatpads as I would rather pay more for the TNNs. So yeah, if you still think the pads you are running are good.....they are not as good as TNN pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 let's put it another way. When working at Tarty, I had nearly all the pads in the market at my disposal, I have tried pretty much everything out there. when it came to get a pad sponsor It just had to be TNN! Before I was sponsored by them, they were my choice of pads. I could have gotten any pads at Tarty for next to nothing but I still chose to spend more and get the TNNs. I even chose not to run the material I used to get from the states for next to nothing (worked out at around 18p a pad) which is the same as Phatpads as I would rather pay more for the TNNs. So yeah, if you still think the pads you are running are good.....they are not as good as TNN pads. each too there own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Is it possible that now the pads are moulded, they could have slighty different characteristics to when they were cut from a sheet? Obviously that sheet was moulded too, but you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 each too there own. if your TNN pads were not as good as others, then I suspect there was a problem somewhere in the setup, grind, contamination etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 They haven't changed. They really have, you can even see a difference in the colour, the sound is different, so if that isnt change then i dont know what is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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