eskimo Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 what makes it different to any other 24" street trial bike? Shorter by about a mile. Seatstay junction is real sweet. Bolt through axles are also cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 They don't look worth the money That statement with a signature talking about a Silver Sky = ironic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 First/only trials frame or fork with a bolt through axle, let alone both. The rest is very true but the Atomz frames came with bolt through axles on frame and fork about 2 years ago? ish? and part of me thinks some people are out to start an argument for the sake of it! (aimed at the guy who you were replying too luke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Ah my bad, I do believe you are right and that I missed that We'll go with "first decent and well publicised through-axle setup" then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 They were just 10mm though, I believe? If they'd have made the most of it I think it could've caught on, but they sort of went at it a bit weirdly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 quick couple of questions on the full build... 1) has the steerer already been cut? i run 40mm of stackers on a fourplay and would like to replicate this as much as possible 2) can a trialtech 128mm bb and middleburns (typical fourplay setup) easily be transfered onto it...and can the howitzers be put onto the fourplay without much hassle? 3) (to the tarty guys) if i asked really nicely, would anyone there be willing to dismantle the wheels and do the hope hub swap i mentioned in an earlier post? (putting the bolt through axles through my blue shells and putting the black shells onto my original standard axles) happy to pay obviously....with something as pricey as hubs i would feel much better someone doing it with the right tools and previous experience than me watching a youtube video and doing what i can with limit kit 4) is there a sticker set available like there used to be with the fourplay? i'll be stripping and repainting and it would be nice to have the skye graphic on it after...no biggy mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 1) has the steerer already been cut? i run 40mm of stackers on a fourplay and would like to replicate this as much as possible They're supplied pre-cut, yeah. They come with 20mm of stackers as standard, but, if you're running a pre-2011 Fourplay your BB height's going to be +35mm - as the new frame has a +10mm BB, you can effectively knock 20-25mm of your stackers off as if you kept the front end the same height it'd probably feel pretty weird. As a result, although you're technically not running as many spacers, it should feel pretty similar. It won't be exactly the same obviously, but it shouldn't sound quite as scary 2) can a trialtech 128mm bb and middleburns (typical fourplay setup) easily be transfered onto it...and can the howitzers be put onto the fourplay without much hassle? As far as I'm aware the Middleburn combo should be fine on there with a 128mm BB. The Howitzers can go onto a standard Fourplay fine, although it might be worth getting your BB shell faced to make the most of it. 3) (to the tarty guys) if i asked really nicely, would anyone there be willing to dismantle the wheels and do the hope hub swap i mentioned in an earlier post? (putting the bolt through axles through my blue shells and putting the black shells onto my original standard axles) I'd imagine there'd be the price of the wheelbuilds to take into account too as the wheels are supplied pre-built. 4) is there a sticker set available like there used to be with the fourplay? i'll be stripping and repainting and it would be nice to have the skye graphic on it after...no biggy mind There's no sticker set available that I know of. I can't really imagine them bringing one out in future either, although you never know I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) thats great, thanks mark Edited October 24, 2011 by chris4stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 It's nice to see a trials bike using bolt through hubs! That will certainly make the bike more solid, although I guess some people might find it too solid as well? Saying that it is more of a street bike so I guess the riders buying it would be glad of a more solid feel. For those of you grumbling about the price, please never get into 'real' mountain biking! Trials is cheap in comparison to DH/Freeride/XC etc... If I wanted to buy a brand new top end mountain bike I could easily end up spending over £4000 for a complete and £2000+ for just a frame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Speaking of that, it's funny how people are calling this bike gimmicky - they should see the amount of shit in the MTB world. I can't actually read any 'normal' (i.e. not Dirt) MTB magazines any more because the sheer gushing volume of bullshit feels like it's suffocating me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Speaking of that, it's funny how people are calling this bike gimmicky I think they're mistaking gimmicks for progress and smart thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 sorry - more questions!!! 1) purely cosmetic, i cant make it out but are the hope levers (like the calipers) all black too?! 2) is there a limited supply of these being made? 3) found the bolt through conversion kits if you guys at tarty had the time to do some various assembly/dismantling work on various parts of the bike id of course be happy to pay...will discuss on the phone when i get round buying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 sorry - more questions!!! 1) purely cosmetic, i cant make it out but are the hope levers (like the calipers) all black too?! 2) is there a limited supply of these being made? 3) found the bolt through conversion kits if you guys at tarty had the time to do some various assembly/dismantling work on various parts of the bike id of course be happy to pay...will discuss on the phone when i get round buying 1. Yeah, they're black - look pimp! 2. There's not a 'limited supply' as such, they just aren't being made in Fourplay/Element/Hex sort of quantities, pretty much. 3. Cool beans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 For those of you grumbling about the price, please never get into 'real' mountain biking! Trials is cheap in comparison to DH/Freeride/XC etc... If I wanted to buy a brand new top end mountain bike I could easily end up spending over £4000 for a complete and £2000+ for just a frame! More like £7000 for the new Trek 9.9 carbon downhill bike. Makes the Skye almost look like a bargain. Bike looks amazing, geo isn't to my personal preference, but then again I'm not Danny mac. Bolt through axles is definitely a step in the right direction. Next its bigger steerers and then a decent bottom bracket standard. I.e. Bb30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 1. Yeah, they're black - look pimp! 2. There's not a 'limited supply' as such, they just aren't being made in Fourplay/Element/Hex sort of quantities, pretty much. 3. Cool beans grand - with what looks like black hoses too its a very cool look - expect my order soon! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Have a feeling they've got stainless hoses on the production model rather than the black Kevlar hoses shown in those photos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) Have a feeling they've got stainless hoses on the production model rather than the black Kevlar hoses shown in those photos... haha ok thanks, another change to make Edited October 25, 2011 by chris4stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Wheres the hand signature by danny mac on these frames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Wheres the hand signature by danny mac on these frames? Inside the headtube I believe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Just got some more detailed photos of the Skye bike in case anyone wanted to see them: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Can you have words with Dave next time you speak to him to get Hope to throw in some bar ends for the bikes please? The whole thing is absolutely top end and lush as you like... except those horrid plain plastic bar ends! I couldn't stand them on the Team so got some Grip Doctors and they finish the bike off loverly. Am I just incredibly anal? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Am I just incredibly anal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Fantastic looking bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Ali: Thought so! Nevermind, as you were I just think on a £2300 bike, dripping with Hope bling, for the sake of maybe £6 (trade price for grip doctors?) per bike, it would be worthwhile as a nice finishing touch... but then I'm incredibly anal. Oo er... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Agree with Ali (Dave you suck ). Prefer plastic myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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