The Printer Thread

[Revolver]

Beat this.

[Hendrix]

Who the f**k wants a printer which reads memory cards, scans, faxes and runs the bath for you?

It's not 1990, pretty much every printer is universal.

Erm, I do? Funnily enough, a lot of people still expect you to fax things to them, to keep a database of previous contracts scanning them is required and it being able to print from memory cards is very VERY convenient.

You'd be surprised how few printers work with Macs to be honest, none of the ones at uni do, none of the ones at Sony use to..

[Geek]

Erm, I do? Funnily enough, a lot of people still expect you to fax things to them, to keep a database of previous contracts scanning them is required and it being able to print from memory cards is very VERY convenient.

You'd be surprised how few printers work with Macs to be honest, none of the ones at uni do, none of the ones at Sony use to..

People really still use fax? I didn't know you couldn't print a PDF... :|

Just connect your camera to your PC and print straight from your PC.... What the f**k is wrong with that. And then you don't have to use some (for what I imagine would be) shit UI and horrible to use software (unless you are using Windows of course)

Give me an example of a printer which doesn't work with a Mac then?

The iPad shit was left by me, a moderator didn't type that.

Even though it hasn't been edited? hmmm...

[Hendrix]

People really still use fax? I didn't know you couldn't print a PDF... :|

Just connect your camera to your PC and print straight from your PC.... What the f**k is wrong with that. And then you don't have to use some (for what I imagine would be) shit UI and horrible to use software (unless you are using Windows of course)

Give me an example of a printer which doesn't work with a Mac then?

I can't give you examples of them because unlike you I'm not a 'geek', though if you really were one you'd understand the possibility that not 'everything' works with 'everything'.

Fax is more secure, apparently. Probably why banks still use it..

The software isn't bad at all, it's simple to navigate and assuming you've not go weird sized photos/photopaper it works flawlessly with no setting up needed.

Sometimes it's easier to bang a photo from a memory card in a crap camera straight in. There's basic photo correction software but that's not the point.

The point is it's got a lot of facilities for not much money and works with every computer in the house no problem. F**king hell you're one for an argument.

[Bronz]

Even though it hasn't been edited? hmmm...

That's part of the user permissions assigned to moderators of most, if not all forums. I moderate a design/development forum where no post edits are timestamped if the person editing it is a moderator.

I also would not have made the two typos in there.

[Skoze]

And yeah, printing is shit. I don't understand why people still do it anyway.

Because maybe, just maybe, they want to have whatever it was on the screen in their hand so it's easier to show people?

On another note, your ego is really f**king me off.

Edited October 5, 2010 by Skoze

[Geek]

Because maybe, just maybe, they want to have whatever it was on the screen in their hand so it's easier to show people?

On another note, your ego is really f**king me off.

I just don't understand it. It's the oldest method of doing anything..

How is that anything to do with my ego?

That's part of the user permissions assigned to moderators of most, if not all forums. I moderate a design/development forum where no post edits are timestamped if the person editing it is a moderator.

I also would not have made the two typos in there.

I understand that but I'm sure trials forum displayed that a moderator had edited it, perhaps that's changed since I last used it. (lots else has)

[JD™]

Because maybe, just maybe, they want to have whatever it was on the screen in their hand so it's easier to show people?

On another note, your ego is really f**king me off.

He's still Charlie Jennings, that's why. Funnily enough for a few posts he was doing OK, but now he's getting comfortable again he's letting his f**ktard2010 comments come out.

EDIT: On topic, I don't have a printer, and so far have no need for one. I'm sure my accountant will have something to say about that at year end though.

Edited October 5, 2010 by JD™

[club_card]

Every time I go to print something it goes wrong! I thought I was the only one.

[Geek]

He's still Charlie Jennings, that's why. Funnily enough for a few posts he was doing OK, but now he's getting comfortable again he's letting his f**ktard2010 comments come out.

EDIT: On topic, I don't have a printer, and so far have no need for one. I'm sure my accountant will have something to say about that at year end though.

Meh, It's just one of those things which pisses me off, like for example. Why do people still want to receive things via fax, there isn't a logical reason, just people being closed minded and not wanting to change their ways, even if their ways are expensive and the less efficient way of doing it. I know we are still going to be printing for a very long time with things like posters and magazines and other such things, though I don't understand why people see a need to have a printer at home anymore.

[Hendrix]

Meh, It's just one of those things which pisses me off, like for example. Why do people still want to receive things via fax, there isn't a logical reason, just people being closed minded and not wanting to change their ways, even if their ways are expensive and the less efficient way of doing it. I know we are still going to be printing for a very long time with things like posters and magazines and other such things, though I don't understand why people see a need to have a printer at home anymore.

It might be old fashioned but it gets the job done easily with minimal chance of something going wrong. It's secure and.. it's free(??).

Students need to print off stuff at home or in their flat/room.

Home businesses needed to print stuff off at home.

Families like to print off photos, letters, memories.

That's why you need printers?

[Tomm]

Bronz, perhaps your love for Apple products has permeated your psyche to such a deep level that you subconsciously type out its praises? Or, your iPad automagically pastes that for you after every forum post in an attempt to increase iPad "buzz" on the internet? Kind of like the way the default signature on the iPhone's email is "Sent from my iPhone" as if I wanted my email recipients to think of me as an arrogant cock.

Either way, Charlie is right, I can't edit posts without leaving the 'editted by' tag (except my own posts).

[dann2707]

Sure Bronz's post was just one sentence long then I came back and it had more added to it conspiracccyyyy!

[konstant]

Had no problems whatsoever with my Canon Pixma. Cost around £70, is actually fairly cheap to run, and is completely plug and play with OS 10.6. Recommended. It looks like a glossy breadbin.

[monkeyseemonkeydo]

the default signature on the iPhone's email is "Sent from my iPhone" as if I wanted my email recipients to think of me as an arrogant cock.

Reason 4572 why I really hate Apple.

[Bronz]

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Edited October 6, 2010 by Bronz

[anzo]

Meh, It's just one of those things which pisses me off, like for example. Why do people still want to receive things via fax, there isn't a logical reason, just people being closed minded and not wanting to change their ways, even if their ways are expensive and the less efficient way of doing it. I know we are still going to be printing for a very long time with things like posters and magazines and other such things, though I don't understand why people see a need to have a printer at home anymore.

People still use fax for order confirmations and anything that needs to be signature authorized. What would be the point in printing something, signing it, scanning it and then emailing it in a PDF?

It's not about being closed minded at all and it's still a technology that is still very much used to this day.

Regards to printing in business terms - policies, contracts, invoices, despatch notes, credit notes, job sheets, notices, SOPs, BOMs, forms....? If course in an ideal world we would like everything to be electronically based, but additional to this a lot of companies don't have the budget for this - its not really a case of 'buy this and stick it there, it'll work'.

Paper format is definately a way of saving money - a small business may have medical information on employees and no IT budget;

1. Stick it in a locked cabinet in a locked room - £100

2. Stick it on an unsecured network - £XX,000 fine IF that information were leaked for a breach of the Data Protection Act.

3. Stick it on a secure network - £25,000 (IP Room, Servers, security, policies...)

If all the documentation used in a business was electronically stored - they'd need a pretty beefy server which a lot of small businesses cannot afford (on top of service contracts, licenses, equipment such as UPS, back up drives). Paper frees up this resource and still allows you to continue your business if the network availablity is compromised.

Of course a downside is that if you have a paper copy, if it's lost or damaged then you have no backup - but unfortunately that's the price you pay.

It might be old fashioned but it gets the job done easily with minimal chance of something going wrong. It's secure and.. it's free(??).

Nope, fax is in no way secure.

[Matthew62]

Meh, It's just one of those things which pisses me off, like for example. Why do people still want to receive things via fax, there isn't a logical reason, just people being closed minded and not wanting to change their ways, even if their ways are expensive and the less efficient way of doing it. I know we are still going to be printing for a very long time with things like posters and magazines and other such things, though I don't understand why people see a need to have a printer at home anymore.

You call people closed minded....listen to yourself. You don't know why people print at home? Because they want to you egit! I'm a graphic designer so naturally i love print, so i thats what i want to do.... print! The print industry is still very big and prominent so there is a big need for printers.

I want to print my images, designs, ideas...pretty much anything f**king thing i want which is why i own a printer.

With print there is a tactile element which pixels ain't never gona replace, nor can come close to. I am fully aware of the importance of computing in future development but it doesn't mean everything that has gone before has to be suppressed and obliterated instantaneously. Under your rule surely books should be disregarded as we can all read on our little blue screens so why waste paper....?

Why can't we have both? How exactly is having everything on screen only, the future and only sensible means of display? If you can justify why it is better, superiour and the only logical means of progression then i'm all ears! Also explain how finishing like foil blocking, spot UV, embossing, textured stocks etc can all be replaced by pixels?

To me, pixels and print go hand in hand i like what you can achieve when you combine them, and to disregard such an established tradition seems....well, it seems very 'closed minded'.

You've come across as nothing short of an idiot and i shall take on board your comments with as much regard and intelligence as you have shown through your comments.......

Edited October 6, 2010 by Matthew62

[shamus]

When I'm in a lecture I can make very quick notes and sketches and diagrams with a good old fashioned pencil on the print-outs when there isn't enough room for a laptop (realistically I'd be chicken winging the people next to me) This makes the printout invaluable. Plus after spending money on my desktop to run serious engineering software I couldn't afford a laptop/tablet pc/Iphone/smartphone/gizzmo/techy shite.

And having a hard copy of notes makes revision 44,953x easier as i can have 5 or 6 sheets visible at once without having to flick my head up or down or even stop writing.

[Revolver]

This thread just goes to show how manipulative printers are. Look how they've turned everyone against each other!

[dann2707]

*shudders* They're evolving

[JT!]

I have no problem with faxes per say. What pisses me off is when they can fax only, but can't email you.

I called my opticians in the UK from the USA asking them to email me my prescription. They weren't set up for email (this was this year!!!). But they said they could fax it over. They couldn't give me it over the phone either, so I had to have them send it out to my dad who emailed me it. Pathetic for 2010!

[JD™]

I have no problem with faxes per say. What pisses me off is when they can fax only, but can't email you.

I called my opticians in the UK from the USA asking them to email me my prescription. They weren't set up for email (this was this year!!!). But they said they could fax it over. They couldn't give me it over the phone either, so I had to have them send it out to my dad who emailed me it. Pathetic for 2010!

Should've gone to Specsavers.

[monkeyseemonkeydo]

Should've gone to Specsavers.

Specsavers still do everything on paper too. I think they'd have to fax it or post it anyway...

[JD™]

Specsavers still do everything on paper too. I think they'd have to fax it or post it anyway...

Just 2 or 3 weeks ago I got them to e-mail my prescription after I'd lost it just after my sight test.