Ashes Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Sorry to bother everybody so late at night -.- Its just me and two friends are having a dispute over what is more important when trying to become a good rider. Thanks Ashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials owns Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) its got to be the rider like fitness, pratice etc you can be good on any trials bike (i think) Edited September 27, 2010 by trials owns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 its got to be the rider like fitness, pratice etc you can be good on any trials bike (i think) We all started out on da bomb's though so bringing that into the equation ???? :/ Ashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowlly21 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 We all started out on da bomb's though so bringing that into the equation ???? :/ Ashes. Loosing are we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trialerboy Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 HAHA Ashes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Rider. Jack Meek riding an MTB was pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab shropshire Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 watch the video with the guy doing trials on a carbon road bike, and it would suggest the rider is the most important thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Rider. Jack Meek Hans Rey riding an MTB is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Meh, it's a fairly recent post in the videos section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 You know my views on the subject... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) I can sidehop and hook my BMX..... a newb on a great trials bike wouldn't touch me riding trials on a BMX, not showing off or anything just sayin' like Not saying its huge but no-one with little / no skill could do that on a sick trials bike Edited September 27, 2010 by Simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Nah it's deffo the bike thats more important. Stick a guy on a trials bike who has never done trials before in his life and he can instantly pedal hop and side hop and etcccc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Rider. Just look at Akrigg, rides anything yet still looks amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Rider for sure. Plenty of people have done some pretty impressive stuff on completely non-trials bikes. Although obivously a trials specific bike would help, it definately doesn't have to be the latest part with ti/carbon everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Elding Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I can sidehop and hook my BMX..... a newb on a great trials bike wouldn't touch me riding trials on a BMX, not showing off or anything just sayin' like Not saying its huge but no-one with little / no skill could do that on a sick trials bike Yeh but youve got a slammed seat with no pegs and a brake so you're basically on a trials bike anyway!!! Im riding portsmouth in a couple of weeks if you wanna show me some street. do you my mate joe, black, four pegs?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 The bike needs to suit your technique. But it's the skill that gets you up walls, bikes don't jump on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 This is so obvious its painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanuckleJive Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) Yeh but youve got a slammed seat with no pegs and a brake so you're basically on a trials bike anyway!!! lol..... Because gear ratios and geometry don't make a trials bike what it is, just the fact it's low and has brakes. Edited September 29, 2010 by PeanuckleJive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronz Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) Rider. Danny Garland (Criminaltrials-something-something on here) is such an impressive rider. Really big, smooth, varied and just generally enviable. He's got a really old school bike which weighs an absolute tonne. It's that heavy that I struggle to gap >5' on it, yet he is a far far better rider than I am. Edited September 29, 2010 by Bronz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Elding Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 lol..... Because gear ratios and geometry don't make a trials bike what it is, just the fact it's low and has brakes. Oh right I didnt know this, and definately wasnt trying to have a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Yeh but youve got a slammed seat with no pegs and a brake so you're basically on a trials bike anyway!!! Im riding portsmouth in a couple of weeks if you wanna show me some street. do you my mate joe, black, four pegs?? That brake doesn't really work =P hahaha yea man anytime dude, you still got my digits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Obviously the rider, bit of a silly thread IMO. I have a lovely bike, but I ride absolutely gash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) Nah it's deffo the bike thats more important. Stick a guy on a trials bike who has never done trials before in his life and he can instantly pedal hop and side hop and etcccc! Tbf the amount of little pikeys I see knocking around who can actually just jump on a modern trials bike and do basic backhops and things surprises me. I started out on a slightly modified regular mountain bike and average Joe couldn't ride it for shit, and it took me ages to learn anything new. Then I got a (now oldschool) trials frame and everything was 10x easier so I could learn faster and push further. So although yes it's obviously the rider that has the necessary skills, modern trials specific frames make life a shit load easier! I doubt there would be anywhere near the level of riding I see today without the huge leaps in trials technology... So 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Edited September 29, 2010 by Jolfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain C Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Having said that, if you're not used to a trials bike they do feel really odd at first to anyone who doesn't ride trials. I've got friends who used to ride trials on really old school bikes but can't do anything on a modern trials bike because they feel so twitchy and like you're about to flip over the bars at any moment, whereas old school trials bikes at least felt vaguely 'normal'. A lot of people get on a trials bike expecting to be automatically able to ride trials on them when actually they just feel really weird if you're not used to it. Clearly though progression in bike design has pushed the sport further, there's no way people could sidehop and tap etc so high on an old Dmr Sidekick or something. A good bike certainly can help you progress faster even if it's purely for the confidence boost that it's not going to blow up when you try something or that the brakes actually work but at the end of the day without a rider it's just a piece of metal and rubber, it's stupidly obvious which is more important. Skip to 2:18 for Damon sidehopping a bmx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 I ride an Inspired with a very similar set up to Danny Macaskill's. I cannot flair off trees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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