Skorp Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Hey. Bought some Echo TR clamps 2-3 weeks ago And now they cant clamp the magura kalippers tight enough! Am i doing it wrong? Did i ruin them by tighten the bolts too much and bend the clamps? Is the new style kalippers slightly smaller in diametre? You can see in the pic from the first day that they are slightly bended.. Edited September 9, 2010 by Skorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I think you are not using a Magura Cylinder washer. This problem will happen with all clamps if you are not using one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I think you are not using a Magura Cylinder washer. This problem will happen with all clamps if you are not using one. Don't need them on those clamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSmokeyJoe Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 TR clamps are designed not to run the washers! Have you tried clamping an 'old style' caliper to see if the clamps can secure one of those properly? You never know, there might be a slight difference in size with the calipers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) TR clamps are designed not to run the washers! Have you tried clamping an 'old style' caliper to see if the clamps can secure one of those properly? You never know, there might be a slight difference in size with the calipers! I do not have any laying around anymore.. I have three possible solutions on the problem Make a mini washer of a coke can, wrap the bit of can around the sylinder, or glue them to the TR clamps.. Though, that would maybe make it too tight? 2nd idea is to "mill" down the lower clamp, so that i can tighten more.. 3rd solution is to buy regular clamps..Some beefier ones, Echo SL or Viz or somthing reinforced! EDIT: 4th solution: Change for my old Vbrakes..Have used them for 2years now, no problems...except if you get a big dent in your rim..Therefor i bought the Magura, so that i can run the rims longer. Edited September 9, 2010 by Skorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo!Man Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 TR clamps are designed not to run the washers! Have you tried clamping an 'old style' caliper to see if the clamps can secure one of those properly? You never know, there might be a slight difference in size with the calipers! If this is the problem, we are talking about an EPIC fail IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSmokeyJoe Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I do not have any laying around anymore.. I have three possible solutions on the problem Make a mini washer of a coke can, wrap the bit of can around the sylinder, or glue them to the TR clamps.. Though, that would maybe make it too tight? 2nd idea is to "mill" down the lower clamp, so that i can tighten more.. 3rd solution is to buy regular clamps..Some beefier ones, Echo SL or Viz or somthing reinforced! Probably best to disassemble the brake and lay the clamps on something perfectly flat. If they aren't bent, you could file them down a little and see if that helps. Or, sell them on and buy a new set? I run the SL clamps and can't rate them high enough. They're worth it for the metal washers alone! Much easier to set brakes up and they clamp them much more securly! If this is the problem, we are talking about an EPIC fail IMO Don't hold me to that though. Its merely an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Wrap some electrical tape arouned the cylinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulud Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) Try putting a washer inbetween the bolts and clamps (ie under the head of the bolt) - your bolts are too long. Edited September 10, 2010 by hulud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modifiedridah2k9 Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Probably best to disassemble the brake and lay the clamps on something perfectly flat. If they aren't bent, you could file them down a little and see if that helps. Or, sell them on and buy a new set? I run the SL clamps and can't rate them high enough. They're worth it for the metal washers alone! Much easier to set brakes up and they clamp them much more securly! Don't hold me to that though. Its merely an idea. The TR clamps are brilliant, so easy to set up. I don't know what the problem is with your's, hope you get it fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Wrap some electrical tape arouned the cylinders. Done this before and it works... I's just check your bolts aren't too long, if not then file some of the lower clamp away to allow it to tighten further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mods Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 you can buy the metal washers on ebay if thats any use to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 If this is the problem, we are talking about an EPIC fail IMO Agreed. Are the pistons plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Erm, I'm not sure what all this talk of washers and tape and coke cans is all about - just tightening the bolts (more specifically the top one) will do the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp Posted September 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Erm, I'm not sure what all this talk of washers and tape and coke cans is all about - just tightening the bolts (more specifically the top one) will do the job! There are no gap there now! This pic was taken before the first ride The bolts are not too long..I might try the tape, its a bit easier than the can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Wrap some electrical tape arouned the cylinders. This. Bit of electrical tape will do well there, no need to go attacking your bike with tools then! Plus no one will notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) i learnt that the grooves on the cylinders have to be where the clamps go in order to keep them still, also dont get the clamps mixed around, once you tighten each side up that side becomes a pair. i wouldnt bother bodging it with a coke can or tape. Edited September 10, 2010 by josh barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira_Shock! Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Try washers and the tape. A little off topic but hopefully Tarty can provide an answer -When will the new 2011 HS33s and HS11s be in stock and for sale in the UK? Seems other countries are getting them already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Try washers and the tape. A little off topic but hopefully Tarty can provide an answer -When will the new 2011 HS33s and HS11s be in stock and for sale in the UK? Seems other countries are getting them already? tarty have replied, tr wont work with the washers, they arent even round inside them for the washer to go in them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 (edited) I think it was supposed to mean washers under the bolt head so it helps prevent the bottom of the bolt bottoming out in the frame. This helped for me on a frame that for some reason had really shallow holes in the frame's brake mounts! (a Zhi... ) Edited September 10, 2010 by Ares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 I think it was supposed to mean washers under the bolt head so it helps prevent the bottom of the bolt bottoming out in the frame. This helped for me on a frame that for some reason had really shallow holes in the frame's brake mounts! (a Zhi... ) or chop the bolt down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Just adding a common washer is an easier and cleaner way to do it than hacking away (and then filing the edges so they aren't razor sharp). Quicker, easier, less time-consuming and is a pretty foolproof method. Extra benefit- Helps reduce the force of the bolt head from trying to cave itself into the clamp. I always run washers under bolt heads for this reason, including mounting calipers onto fork disc mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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