niconj Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, craigjames said: Have there been many issues with the 20" version of this fork? Only the 26'' 4bolt ones and even those didn't crack regularly. It's just Trialtech that did a recall for safety reasons. Other trials companies wouldn't have done so I think. I've got a disc version of this fork and after 2 years it's still going strong. That's why I got the 4bolt version rather than another carbon fork. The weight penalty isn't an issue for me weighing 90kgs. Edited July 5, 2016 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 2 hours ago, niconj said: Only the 26'' 4bolt ones and even those didn't crack regularly. It's just Trialtech that did a recall for safety reasons. Other trials companies wouldn't have done so I think. I've got a disc version of this fork and after 2 years it's still going strong. That's why I got the 4bolt version rather than another carbon fork. The weight penalty isn't an issue for me weighing 90kgs. Quite aware of the 26" issues and the subsequent recall. So you don't actually know if the 20" versions had any problems then?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, craigjames said: Quite aware of the 26" issues and the subsequent recall. So you don't actually know if the 20" versions had any problems then?.... They haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Thought there was a Trialtech lever topic but possibly not... anyway, we just got these in the post to fit to Jack Carthy's bike later on today. These are sweeeeeeet. Not quite the finished item (they'll have a couple of minor tweaks before they're released), but very close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mark W said: Thought there was a Trialtech lever topic but possibly not... anyway, we just got these in the post to fit to Jack Carthy's bike later on today. These are sweeeeeeet. Not quite the finished item (they'll have a couple of minor tweaks before they're released), but very close. Who's Jack? Send them to me, I'll mount them on my bike. Split clamp with reversed bolts would've been nice. I hope that they don't leak but Trialtech usually brings out good stuff, just like Inspired. BTW: HOPE will bring theirs out soon as well. Edited July 20, 2016 by niconj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Jack's had a set on his bike since we posted up the original photos on our FB page ages ago and they're still sealing perfectly. Joe Prattley's been running them too, again with no issues. They've invested a lot of time and money into them, and they've even had to get custom wiper seals made. Serious business - it's not just some budget clone lever, basically. For the Hope brakes I'm not so sure about that. By chance, I happened to have a chat with someone on the phone about them earlier today and it sounds like they're still very much in the R&D phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just need the matching slaves now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 18 hours ago, Mark W said: For the Hope brakes I'm not so sure about that. By chance, I happened to have a chat with someone on the phone about them earlier today and it sounds like they're still very much in the R&D phase. "R&D phase" - so they're admitting that they are looking into making some trials specific products? TT levers look sweet - if i was still into that kind of thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yeah, it seems they have plans to. There's this rim brake, and we saw some Trial Zone pedals a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Any ideas of an ETA? I'm done with racing line. And Very close to going Vee brake up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Davetrials said: Any ideas of an ETA? I'm done with racing line. And Very close to going Vee brake up front. Well. I talked to my dealer who went to HOPE's factory last week and he told me that the brake is almost ready to be launched. Just some minor details even though I don't know whether these details are production ones or marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 If you mean the Trialtech ones Dave, we're not 100% sure sorry. They shouldn't be too far off now. Speaking of a comparison to Racing Line though, Cap got himself a pre-production Sport lever so took his Racing Line lever off it, and I put it next to the Carthy lever to see what it was like. It's weird to think the Racing Line bodies used to look sleek and minimal, but then you compare them to this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Still a good lever in my opinion. What I don't like is that the bushing seems to be irreplaceable whereas Racing Line have a screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 The bushings are fully replaceable - there's just a grub screw and some O-rings holding the pivot in place, and once that's out you can replace the bushings easily. Carthy has been using the prototype with those IGUS bushings in for a reasonable amount of time now and they're still super smooth with virtually no play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff costello Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 is anything already known about water-tolerance with the new TT-levers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 They've been tested using the Trialtech Rim Brake Fluid and there haven't been any leaking issues with any of the ones out and about to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 No ones even tried water as a kind of under the radar test for a while? Will there be an advisory notice with the lever stating that its not meant for water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 The most important question though...for how much will they sell. I can imagine them being around the Racing Line levers or even more. Probably still gonna get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Ross McArthur said: No ones even tried water as a kind of under the radar test for a while? Will there be an advisory notice with the lever stating that its not meant for water? Trialtech fluid is water-based, so theoretically water would work fine with it. As usual we'd recommend running a water/antifreeze mix or TT fluid as they generally seem to help keep everything conditioned a little better, but either way it should be fine with it. 1 hour ago, niconj said: The most important question though...for how much will they sell. I can imagine them being around the Racing Line levers or even more. Probably still gonna get them. Due to them being forged rather than CNC'd, it means the price of making the body itself is way, way cheaper, despite forging arguably being better (similar deal to CNC machined stems vs. forged stems). I don't think final prices have been nailed down yet, but the Sport lever should be under £50, and the baller spec Carthy lever should be under £100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff costello Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 thanks @Mark W the only thing that slightly annoys me about my magura 2014 levers is the occasional stuck piston with water (the swelling thing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 19 hours ago, jeff costello said: thanks @Mark W the only thing that slightly annoys me about my magura 2014 levers is the occasional stuck piston with water (the swelling thing) I'm reliably informed that one of the riders testing the brakes used water for a bit before switching to TT fluid. The pistons are made from an engineering grade plastic specifically chosen because it has significantly lower fluid absorption levels than the normal nylon material use for pistons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 New mounts all up in hurrrrr: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niconj Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 13 hours ago, Mark W said: New mounts all up in hurrrrr Got mine already but as I didn't own the old version I couldn't tell the changes they've made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 1 hour ago, niconj said: Got mine already but as I didn't own the old version I couldn't tell the changes they've made. Once Tarty post some pics on their site ill post pics of mine to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Pics went up last night http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/26_inch_forks/trialtech_sport_lite_26_inch/c40p12187.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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