Canardweb Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) Hello, I was searching for a new frame that I would like. It had to have a high BB, long wheelbase, and it had to be solid, rigid, and not designed for competitions. I have been across the Kortz 2, which is damn too light and damn too expensive. The slate 2 but the BB is too low and it is not designed for street riding. Basically I wanted a frame with good geo but that I would be able to ride without being worried to break it. Weight was really not important. So, I sent an order to Marino to see if he could do a frame for me. He said he could and that he would receive Cr-Mo (cromoly tubes) that would be single, double or triple butted. Cr-Mo is lighter and more solid than Hi-ten which is what he used originally. So here is what I asked for: The geo is quite compstyle and I think it will suit me very well. The main advantage of this frame is that if it breaks I will be able to weld it very easily, and it is cheap too. You can see I asked for a hole in the headtube (because i think it looks cool), additional welding between top and diagonal tubes and between seatstays and chainstays. This is to add extra stifness to the frame. Marino sent me these plans: After calculating quadratic moment near the BB with tube length and width, I decided to remove a gusset that would have fragilised the frame with the welding penetration. The day after he sent me this photo which seemed quite promising: Then he started cutting the tubes and adding them together: The most recent photos I have are these ones where all the tubes are added together. All it needs now is welding, adding gussets, and painting in black with white writing on it! I will let you know as soon as I get additional pictures with welding done and other stages. Thanks for reading. In the first place I would like to thank Marino Alegre Del Aguila for the excellent work and fast communication. I would like to thank Kevin Liu for his designing advices as well as Adam Philips. I would like to thank Lengyel Adrian for convincing me about the geo. I would like to thank the Tarty guys for giving me advices when I was looking for a frame. I would also like to thank Morgan Lavaux for his advices about the general aspects of the frame. Edited September 16, 2010 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsrider101 Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 That going to be one nice frame mate, cant wait to see the finished project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 That going to be one nice frame mate, cant wait to see the finished project Neither can I, I am so happy to see a frame that will finally suit me. Let's hope it rides well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33th3tr33 Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 How much did it cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 dont paint it....you will ruin it. leave it cro-mo and get it laquered. geo not to my taste, but looks ok all the same. could have been a little lighter as well, but other than that it looks alreet to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) I'd make sure it is Cromo he never used to be able to tell people what material he had used. I'm by no means saying it wont be. And it looks hot, a real bike made out of man metal! Edited August 31, 2010 by davey1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 I'd make sure it is Cromo he never used to be able to tell people what material he had used. Yea better make sure.....dont worry, it is chromo. Good work my friend. Another happy customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joea Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 what you made it out off ally or steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 How heavys frame ? 2kg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo!Man Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) I absolutely love that bike, not too keen on the geo, but looks ace. And it's only 2 kg?? My '09 Pyton is 1'92 lol Edited August 31, 2010 by Zoo!Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 what you made it out off ally or steel I'd guess from the fact its Cromo that maybe it might be steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Nice frame! Love Marinos..Want one myself, would be nice to try my own geo and all.. I know the old Koxx Excessboy had a geo like yours Only with 80+ bb.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Have they gone up in price because there cromo now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 I know this may sound really retarded .......... but what are gussets ? Ashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 How much did it cost? It costs 250 dollars shipping excluded. Visit his site: http://www.marinobike.com Ashes, gussets are reinforcements (metal plate) that will help supporting the frame assembly. It help dividing by b*h^3 the quadratic moments on a section. This will permit that the frame is less being forced on. It makes it more solid basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Ok dudes, here is a small update from when I got back from work. He has finished basic welding (tubes to tubes). Here are some pics. The weight right now is more near 2,1 kilos. All it needs is some welding between top and down tubes and between chain and seat stays. It allso needs some gussets near the headtube (down and top tube) and near the BB (chainstays). The only real design that's missing apart from the extra welding is the triple seat tube design. It will help overall rigidity and most of all the BB solidity. It is supposed to delete every degree of liberty in the structure because it uses all the compensations on the frame, and it deletes every potential plastic domains on the X, Y and Z axis. I am sure that frame will be rideable, now, will it be nice? Then it will be painted (sorry Ben...) and sent to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Have they gone up in price because there cromo now? Yes. Frames looking good so far dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Yes. Frames looking good so far dude. Thanks Ross!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) Woohee, nearly done, gusset near BB, triple seat tube painting, then shipping! Yeeaaaaaaaaah! Edited August 31, 2010 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gage-mann Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 you not using a brake on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted September 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Yes the brake mounts have to be welded too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Looks really good, sorry if im being dumb, but what colour are you having it? Cant wait to see the final product / fully built! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Looks really good, sorry if im being dumb, but what colour are you having it? Cant wait to see the final product / fully built! Dont just look at the pretty pictures......Black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 That'll look really good, what is the green chain? I want one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted September 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Thanks everybody, I don't know what the green chain is, it is Marino's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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