Luke Dunstan Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 (edited) Keep this short. Got a spanking new HS33, New pads and a VERY light grind. Spent a few days trying to break it all in (Rim was done a while ago) and it didn't change, Put some monty spray on as a last resort for a ride tomorrow, and it worked fine, until this morning when the Monty spray didn't even lock the brake. Getting pretty annoyed as without a working rear brake, my confidence goes to pot. (obv) Rim is sticky/filthy/mucky now. What to do? does monty spray "break in"? Cheers. Edited August 7, 2010 by xDUNSTANx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Whats the set up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modifiedridah2k9 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Keep this short. Got a spanking new HS33, New pads and a VERY light grind. Spent a few days trying to break it all in (Rim was done a while ago) and it didn't change, Put some monty spray on as a last resort for a ride tomorrow, and it worked fine, until this morning when the Monty spray didn't even lock the brake. Getting pretty annoyed as without a working rear brake, my confidence goes to pot. (obv) Rim is sticky/filthy/mucky now. What to do? does monty spray "break in"? Cheers. What new pads? And whats it bled with? And what do you mean your confidence goes to pot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 What new pads? And whats it bled with? And what do you mean your confidence goes to pot? You'd do a 10foot drop-gap, with butter smeared all over a ceramatic rim, with magura blacks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modifiedridah2k9 Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 You'd do a 10foot drop-gap, with butter smeared all over a ceramatic rim, with magura blacks? I didn't mean it like that, i meant what does he mean it goes to pot. I've never heard anybody say that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials owns Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 I didn't mean it like that, i meant what does he mean it goes to pot. I've never heard anybody say that before. i think he means he has lost all faith in his brake so he cant do nothing without worrying about his brake slipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 i think he means he has lost all faith in his brake so he cant do nothing without worrying about his brake slipping. Well said. Croco brown pads, maggy blood. is the set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 rim? frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 your using new pads on a rim with a old grind, old setup could have been contaminated and your using new pads on a rim that could be contaminated from your old setup. give the rim a regrind and and use sand paper on the surface of the new pads (just to remove the current spray/grime off them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 your using new pads on a rim with a old grind, old setup could have been contaminated and your using new pads on a rim that could be contaminated from your old setup. give the rim a regrind and and use sand paper on the surface of the new pads (just to remove the current spray/grime off them) The grind has hardly been used, but it is VERY light, i had the Onza citrus pads before and they sucked. rim? frame Triatech Sport rim. Zhi Z3 frame (with Tensile booster) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 The grind has hardly been used even if its hardly been used, it can still carry contamination from your old setup, if it was contaminated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Keep this short. Got a spanking new HS33, New pads and a VERY light grind. Spent a few days trying to break it all in (Rim was done a while ago) and it didn't change, Put some monty spray on as a last resort for a ride tomorrow, and it worked fine, until this morning when the Monty spray didn't even lock the brake. Getting pretty annoyed as without a working rear brake, my confidence goes to pot. (obv) Rim is sticky/filthy/mucky now. What to do? does monty spray "break in"? Cheers. Well the answer is pretty obvious then, REGRIND. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a dirty rim isn't going to work very well! Plus there is no use in putting a light grind on, either grind it properly or keep it smooth. I have always put the harshest grinds possible on my rims and redo them every 2 months or so. I usually clean my rim before every ride as well, grinds can clog up very easily. Changing a tyre will cover the rim in crap, even dust will effect performance.Also, what pads are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Well the answer is pretty obvious then, REGRIND. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a dirty rim isn't going to work very well! Plus there is no use in putting a light grind on, either grind it properly or keep it smooth. I have always put the harshest grinds possible on my rims and redo them every 2 months or so. I usually clean my rim before every ride as well, grinds can clog up very easily. Changing a tyre will cover the rim in crap, even dust will effect performance. Also, what pads are they? Try-all Croco pads, brown. I'm planning on a hard grind, but can't do it until next week, just need something t hold tomorrow really. and yes a REGRIND is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Try-all Croco pads, brown. I'm planning on a hard grind, but can't do it until next week, just need something t hold tomorrow really. and yes a REGRIND is obvious. if your brake was good with monty spray, use more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Not well enough Oh well, will have to do for tomorrow. then a heavy grind next week. Cheers for all the comments guys, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Try-all Croco pads, brown. I'm planning on a hard grind, but can't do it until next week, just need something t hold tomorrow really. and yes a REGRIND is obvious. Those pads are pretty hard wearing, you can put on a really harsh grind and they should still last. You seemed to miss my other point of how important it is for the rim to be clean? Go and give it a good scrub with some soapy water, clean the pads if needs be and rinse off. If its still no good then apply some brake spray just before you got out riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 (edited) The grind has hardly been used, but it is VERY light, i had the Onza citrus pads before and they sucked. Triatech Sport rim. Zhi Z3 frame (with Tensile booster) Onza citrus work fine with a grind, they just disappear thats all. As said clearly it's your grind/contaminated rim/pads. Get the grinder on there and give it some angry loving. Edited August 7, 2010 by Matt Vandart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted August 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Those pads are pretty hard wearing, you can put on a really harsh grind and they should still last. You seemed to miss my other point of how important it is for the rim to be clean? Go and give it a good scrub with some soapy water, clean the pads if needs be and rinse off. If its still no good then apply some brake spray just before you got out riding. Onza citrus work fine with a grind, they just disappear thats all. As said clearly it's your grind/contaminated rim/pads. Get the grinder on there and give it some angry loving. Right, cleaning process complete haha, Got the sticky grubby stuff off with Lighter Fluid, then used hot soapy water, and finished off with disc brake cleaner. Sanded the pads slightly to get a clean flat finish, and it all seems to be alot better! Still going for the deep heavy grind though, THe rim is going to be sore. Cheers for all the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Right, cleaning process complete haha, Got the sticky grubby stuff off with Lighter Fluid, then used hot soapy water, and finished off with disc brake cleaner . Sanded the pads slightly to get a clean flat finish, and it all seems to be alot better! Still going for the deep heavy grind though, THe rim is going to be sore. Cheers for all the help guys. theres another problem now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted August 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 theres another problem now Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 its a formula for disc brake pads and rotors, not rim brakes. it says on my can of disc brake cleaner (muc-off) not for use on rim brakes. isnt it all in the name of the product??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted August 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 its a formula for disc brake pads and rotors, not rim brakes. it says on my can of disc brake cleaner (muc-off) not for use on rim brakes. isnt it all in the name of the product??? Well, no actually, its called "Brake Cleaner" for disc and drum brakes, clutches atc. It's done the job perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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