dann2707 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'd going to take a guess at the Wiggle mountain mayhem 24 endurance event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 So unbelievably close!! THIS weekend just gone..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 My facebook stalking skills only go so far haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 ha.Fair play for finding that much out anyway. BONTRAGER twentyfour 12 event. I rode the solo 24hr category, which explains the food and weight loss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Like Bucky, im over 13st, but would say its still a fairly lean body if that makes sense? For the fat burn side of things low intensity cardio is the trick, no eating before hand though. Just to make you all feel bad, I ate over 10,000 calories between saturday and sunday, yet lost 3kg in weight. 1 trials forum Mars bar to who can guess what I was doing? Low intensity? I went hell for leather on a treadmill, then onto the cycling machine and finally on to the rowing machine. I felt sick when I finished. Think I'm being over cautious with food, not eating white bread at the moment and cutting down my sugar by not drinking tea/coffee. Just until I get into shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yea super low intensity. Sat in the fat burning zone for 19 hours.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Burnt 1000 calories in one session last night, I could see the reflection of the ceiling in my pool of sweat next to the exercise bike. Been at is two weeks now and my weight hasn't changed! is that normal? I'm eating much healthier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Burnt 1000 calories in one session last night, I could see the reflection of the ceiling in my pool of sweat next to the exercise bike. Been at is two weeks now and my weight hasn't changed! is that normal? I'm eating much healthier. I just consumed 1000 (well, just under) calories as my 3rd meal of the day... I love (read: hate) having to be the opposite just to stay at a measly 68kg. Be aware that all of the calorie counters on machines are complete guesstimates, take them as a guide only. Hence my constant mantra to people who are trying to lose weight - eat less, move more. There is absolutely no point focussing on anything else because anything more complicated than that is just a waste of valuable time you could be thinking about something else. If you're not losing weight yet, you're just turning some fat into muscle. If you were monitoring your body fat percentage (which you shouldn't be, because you're just eating less and moving more) you'd see your fat percentage going down and your weight staying the same - this is fine, the weight loss will come but you're getting leaner anyway. Good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I just consumed 1000 (well, just under) calories as my 3rd meal of the day... I love (read: hate) having to be the opposite just to stay at a measly 68kg. Be aware that all of the calorie counters on machines are complete guesstimates, take them as a guide only. Hence my constant mantra to people who are trying to lose weight - eat less, move more. There is absolutely no point focussing on anything else because anything more complicated than that is just a waste of valuable time you could be thinking about something else. If you're not losing weight yet, you're just turning some fat into muscle. If you were monitoring your body fat percentage (which you shouldn't be, because you're just eating less and moving more) you'd see your fat percentage going down and your weight staying the same - this is fine, the weight loss will come but you're getting leaner anyway. Good work! Can't wait to get rid of my jelly belly. Haha. I hear people banging on about proteins and all that to repair muscles, I was spent last night and was aching pretty bad but now I'm fine and ready to go again tonight. So I guess I don't need any of that gumpf? If you eat 1000 calories how many of those actually stick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Best way to get rid of a belly is running, coupled with ab work to make sure you're toning what's underneath, just as a heads up. f**k worrying about anything other than doing enough work in the gym, and eating better than you were before. You don't have to have the perfect exercise routine, and you don't have to have the perfect nutrition, you just need to be doing them better than you were before. That will give you sustainable results without making it all a chore If I get through about 4500 calories a day, they all get used by my body sitting around doing nothing. I.e. I stay the same weight at that level of consumption. Stupid bloody metabolism. To put on the whole 3 measly kgs I've managed I was having to get through about 6000, but then eating becomes a chore (as well as expensive) and I give up, which is kind of my point up there when losing weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) JD do you do any specific workouts for your v lines? If i remember rightly in a photo you posted they were pretty defined. I think i was you anyway hmmm Edited July 17, 2012 by LukasMcNeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) I think mine mainly come from boxing days, which included a shit load of alternate situps, russian twists, and of course actually punching things! They've definitely declined lately, so I need to get back on it... EDIT: But then again I'm just a weed of a man, so definition is the only thing I've had! Edited July 17, 2012 by JD™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Burnt 1000 calories in one session last night, I could see the reflection of the ceiling in my pool of sweat next to the exercise bike. Been at is two weeks now and my weight hasn't changed! is that normal? I'm eating much healthier. # weight loss takes time, ignore the scales, the mirror was my prefered measure of improvement... i was burning 1K in calories (according to the machines) 5 days a week for about a month while using a diet suppliment kit, i dunno if it was a placebo or a mix of everything, but just stick at it, and keep that standard going.... the readings aren't accurate, but they are still useful, as the calories used is based on the wattage needed to match your output, but your actual calorie consumption will vary based on your fitness and how often you do that type of exercise, always mix it up, don't stick to one machine, use 3-4 different ones with a goal of so many calories on each, it breaks up the monotiny and ensures different muscles are used... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arw_86 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) g'mornin! does not eating enough mean you dont lose weight? reason being is i have a physical job and i added up my average day calorie intake a while ago and it was about 2300. and i saw that i was over the RDA for carbs which isnt ideal i guess, but everything else (protein, fibre i was higher =good) (salt, fats etc were lower = bad) I keep active too, i did tough guy on sunday, full 11-a-side yesterday, and as i said my job is very physical. I have a bit of muscle but my main annoyance is my love handles. they just will not disappear. So as i asked earlier, do you think i should be taking in more calories of any kind? or up them with less carby food? I do feel that if i eat more ill just put fat on. Im a bit confused really. One worthy note is that i dont like fruit and much salad. so my basic diet i guess is.... Breakfast - i have this every single morning 3 weetabix, milk, bit of sugar. bagel with whole peanut butter green tea Lunch 1-1.5 sandwiches (so 3 slices of bread with a meat and quite often some sort of rocket salad) mixed nut and fruit bar sometimes a bag of crisps get in hungry so will snack on few peanuts, bagel, bits of ham or chicken dinner varies but my mum rarely cooks absolute shite and i have a good portion sometimes dessert but most often not and thats your lot, doesnt seem like much to me looking at it now, especially lunch. so any tips, advice etc would be appreciated. Edited July 18, 2012 by arw_86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Don't forget that drinks have calories as well, just in case you've got some mass addiction to fizzy stuff you're not telling us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooltrials Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 g'mornin! does not eating enough mean you dont lose weight? reason being is i have a physical job and i added up my average day calorie intake a while ago and it was about 2300. 2300 seems really low for the food you've put on that list, things like peanuts and bagels have got shit loads of calories ? I reckon its probably more like 3000+ for your food, and whatever you're drinking throughout the day is gonna be extra. Also I'll assume you like a beer now and then and they're around 200 calories a pint..... I've managed to shed just over 3 stone since February pretty much by just cutting down on the shit i used to eat, and when i eat it. I work nights so i have a big dinner before work and then burn it off through the night and go to bed hungry. Also I've been using the "myfitnesspal" app the last few weeks to keep a diary of what I've been eating and to help get rid of the last stone i want to lose, counting calories to lose weight does suck both cock and balls but it does work as long as you include EVERYTHING that you're eating and drinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 I never thought peanuts would have so many calories, FFS I've been eating shit loads!! like two jars in as many weeks. FFFFUFUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 high calorie, but good calories... it's better to pig out on a healthy food than the same amount of chocolate/crisps etc, don't feel to bad about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'll try not to. Going to try and stick to whole wheat bread, eggs and tuna for a bit. Oh and Weetabix in the morning. Got a free personal trainer session booked for the 25th, looking forward to getting this show on the road and earn my Sparticus body... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hI-OOPS-CAPS Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I never thought peanuts would have so many calories, FFS I've been eating shit loads!! like two jars in as many weeks. FFFFUFUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!! Peanuts are good for you though, but like everything else in moderation. They have the good kind of fats. Ive always wondered. Suppose you have all your nutrition met one day (like all your vitamens, iron etc). Does it matter where you get the remaining calories from? When people say quality of calories, are calories not just calories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 g'mornin! does not eating enough mean you dont lose weight? reason being is i have a physical job and i added up my average day calorie intake a while ago and it was about 2300. and i saw that i was over the RDA for carbs which isnt ideal i guess, but everything else (protein, fibre i was higher =good) (salt, fats etc were lower = bad) I keep active too, i did tough guy on sunday, full 11-a-side yesterday, and as i said my job is very physical. I have a bit of muscle but my main annoyance is my love handles. they just will not disappear. So as i asked earlier, do you think i should be taking in more calories of any kind? or up them with less carby food? I do feel that if i eat more ill just put fat on. Im a bit confused really. One worthy note is that i dont like fruit and much salad. so my basic diet i guess is.... Breakfast - i have this every single morning 3 weetabix, milk, bit of sugar. bagel with whole peanut butter green tea Lunch 1-1.5 sandwiches (so 3 slices of bread with a meat and quite often some sort of rocket salad) mixed nut and fruit bar sometimes a bag of crisps get in hungry so will snack on few peanuts, bagel, bits of ham or chicken dinner varies but my mum rarely cooks absolute shite and i have a good portion sometimes dessert but most often not and thats your lot, doesnt seem like much to me looking at it now, especially lunch. so any tips, advice etc would be appreciated. That's the kind of food I'd eat without meaning to lose weight. If you want to ditch the love handles, you need to ditch some food. Breakfast, for example, is breakfast for two. Cut out the bagel, lose that half sandwich at lunch etc. I guess I'm trying to say that you're going to have to make a concious effort to lose weight. It definitely won't come by eating more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arw_86 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 cheers for your help guys. to be honest ive made myself sound like a fat b*****d. Im pretty slim all over apart from the spare tyre. I have fairly decent muscle mass too. Basically not scrawny. Im6ft and 12.5 st. As i stated i have a very physical job most days and also i only really drink water in the day with the odd pepsi max on the evening. weekend can be an alcohol fest but i dont really like beer (i know i know, but it is fairly bad tasting haha) so have vodka diet coke mostly. im sure if i cut food out id lose weight, but i dont want to lose muscle or energy, which i think i will. Im just gonna keep active and perhaps sacrifice some extra half sandwiches and smaller portions here and there etc. thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Elding Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Cut that bagels out or replace it with a slice of wholegrain bread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Wow, my first post in almost 2 years! Good to see some familiar faces in here. Had a read of your topic and a few of the replies, seems like a few people have made some good suggestions. You have to ask yourself what your targets are before thinking about routines and diet. From what I can tell your trying to get into good general shape, maybe improve your strength for trials moves and cut some of the fat. You could look at some beginner routines on the internet, something like a 3/4 day split. However one routine I have used which would help you to acheive your goals is called German Volume Training. It's worth a look beleive me. As far as diet goes, it is very important! Even more so than what you do in the gym, do not beleive that eating less food will give you the results you desire! Instead aim to follow a diet that consists of high protein and low carbs, only eat your carbs at the start of the day and pre-workouts/riding. Protein is found in meats and will not only help to recover your muscles after riding/training but it will help to preserve muscle mass while you are cutting fat. As far as cardio is concerned, no one wants to sit on a rowing machine/bike/cross trainer for an hour at a time! Keep it fast and simple, try some HIIT cardio as this will be the fastest and most effective method of losing fat. Search google for each of the following German Volume Training, High Intensity Interval Training and also if you are interested in an extreme cutting diet try the Keto diet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Right, I thought I'd bump this up rather than start a new thread, as I'm just wanting some basic tips on stuff I can do at home to improve my fitness/build easily. Firstly, apologies for my massive lack of knowledge on any of this, I work in Motorsport, I'm no gym trainer! I'm clueless with all this! Basically, I'm currently 5'9" and a touch overweight at 13 stone. I'm relatively fit and healthy compared to the average bloke in the streat just through my normal lifestyle, as my works relatively active, and I generally enjoy a little exercise/don't avoid physical exertion, but I'd like to shift a little weight, while maintaining a similar amount of muscle to my current build, and if possible build my shoulders a touch, just because my frame's a little narrow shouldered/wide hipped. I'm aiming for ~11/11.5 stone ideally, and visually just being in shape, rather than being overly muscular. Above all I just want it to be maintainable though. Now this is what I've been doing at the moment, having done zero looking into it, and based on a complete guess at what might help, and what I'm easily capable of doing around my current lifestyle: I started trying to shift some weight in June going for a 9.8 mile XC ride locally as regularly as I got a chance, which was 2 or 3 times a week, and I got down to 12.5 stone fairly easily, but then work got in the way and I've slipped back up to 13 stone. Then more recently to try any make up for this with work still being busy I've been doing a few exercises at night before bed (~11:30pm) every night. My thinking behind doing it at this time is basically: 1) I don't sleep well, I tend to fall asleep around 1am regardless of what time I get into bed, so I may as well make use of the time, 2) No idea if this is right, but it might help burn off some of my dinner before hitting the sack causes it all to go into reserves? 3) It helps me get to sleep by wearing me out, but doesn't eat at my ability to do anything useful with my evenings. No idea if I'm completely wrong to think that, like I say, I've no idea about this stuff, so please correct me if it's a terrible idea, but it does fit in very well with my day. This is what I've been doing, all done slowly so I'm taking the weight in the return direction too: 25 sit-ups 25 press-ups 25 reps going from my arm at my side to straight out sideways. (See what I mean about lack of knowledge, I'm sure there's a proper name for that!) Done as 10 left, 10 right, 10 left, 10 right, 5 left, 5 right, with a ~5.5kg weight. 30 reps of arm down, to arm curled, with the weight at my shoulder, 10l, 10r etc... Same weight. Then repeat the lot Then repeat the lot but with 10 of everything. Then do 25 squat things, as in standing straight, down to crouching with my heals against my arse, and back up. I think this is helping build a bit of muscle, but doesn't really seem to be shifting any of the flab, I guess it's only 15 minutes exercise, so it's probably not going to. I'd keep doing the bike ride more often, but the route doesn't really drain, so unless it's been dry for a week or so I end up spending much more time cleaning/sorting out kit than I do riding, which is pretty discouraging, and I just don't have time to do it when work's busy. I need to find a dryer loop, but I don't find road riding interesting enough, and I'm struggling to find a better off-road route. When I do get a chance now I do it on my Singlespeed jump bike, just to maximise how knackered I am after. (The choice is a heavy 6" travel freeride/all-mountain bike, or a 12.5" framed, singlespeed hardtail jump bike). I may have to force my self to do some road stuff I guess, I've got an old roadie with full guards on it, so it'd minimize the time it takes up cleaning stuff. I do go for off-road rides at weekends when I get a chance too, but I've been stupidly busy with weekends away and working weekends over the summer, so it's been a while since I've had a chance. I'm keen to take back up kayaking too, as I used to really enjoy it, but again, I've been struggling to find the time. I know my diet needs some attention which I think is the only real way I'm going to shift weight without effecting my lifestyle. I'm vegetarian, but I eat a lot of 'fake meat' and fish (OK, technically I'm pescetarian, not vegetarian). I know I need to eat more decent veg and cut down on the fat content, which is the next thing I want to address. I'm hoping that doing so in combination with what I've been doing exercise wise will help bring my weight down a touch. Basically, I'm wanting tips from people in the know about what I can do to improve things, in particular exercises I can do around the house without buying loads of expensive kit. I'm half tempted to buy a rowing machine, but I don't really have anywhere to put it at the moment. Any tips on diet would be great too, I gather it's a good idea to cut down the carbs and increase the protein intake? Is this still the case if I'm more worried about loosing weight than gaining muscle? The final point, that you guys will probably find stupid, is that I don't really want to start going to a gym, I don't have the time, and I don't want to pay the money. Wow, that ended up long, sorry about that. Thanks for any advice! 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