Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Hello, sorry for this new brake pad topic. Well, I have just received my Coust'Sinks pads from http://www.heatsinkbikes.com. So I put them on my brake (4 finger lever bled with water, and Echo TR booster), ground my rear Try-Hole rim with a sharp medium grind, and set my pads perfectly straight to the rim, thanks to Try-All CNC brake clamps and to perfectly square brake mounts (made with the TNN Advanced brake setting video). Now my pads are perfectly square to the rim, touching at the same time the rim, my brake lever feel is solid as hell. The only problem I get is that my pads just don't honk at all. I have ridden my bike for about half an hour in front of my house. If I get to rear wheel it makes a poor squeaky sound. But if I feather the brake while rolling pretty fast, then it honks. Is this normal? Because I have always used standard original Coust! pads from Michel Coustellier, and they were honking straight from the beginning! Are the pads not bedded in yet? Please help. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Do they work ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Do they work ok? Other than that they do yes. Except they just don't bite as well (because they don't honk if you see what I mean...) But I want a honking brake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Surely a silent brake is better, provided it works?! How on earth a horrific squirrel-in-a-mangle noise is considered a bonus is beyond me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Ive just put exactly the same pads on my bike and its the loudest, most annoying brake ever now. Wanna swap bikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Ive just put exactly the same pads on my bike and its the loudest, most annoying brake ever now. Wanna swap bikes? Well then, I don't know what it is... Have you been riding these bad boys a lot before they have been noisy? Or have they been noisy straight away? My bike is nice thanks, I'll keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mods Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 i think people get used to a loud brake and the associate a good working brake with a loud one. If your pads are quiet and work well you'll get used to it. Its just having faith in a quiet brake really. If your unlucky then they just havent bed in yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Mine were freakishly loud from the first pull. On a dead grind, typical amazing coust pad bite and hold from the word go. Ive just changed my booster setup so thats why they are so loud now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Ah okay that may be it then. Because my Cousts have always been better on a dead grind, so perhaps it's not the pads that need bedding in, perhaps the grind does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modifiedridah2k9 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Well it sounds like you have a perfect set-up mate, but give it 2 days of riding, probably less than 2 days actualy so they can bed it properly, i think aluminium backings take longer to bed in. Hope i helped EDIT: Yeah the grind also needs bed in Edited June 4, 2010 by modifiedridah2k9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Well it sounds like you have a perfect set-up mate, but give it 2 days of riding, probably less than 2 days actualy so they can bed it properly, i think aluminium backings take longer to bed in. Hope i helped EDIT: Yeah the grind also needs bed in Hahaha! Okay thanks. But I don't think my pads will bed in without me touching my bike. You know, I have a job, I can't ride every day... No worries mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Heres my set up: Splitter is precision crafted by super on here, would have liked smaller hose fittings but hey. Magura mounts have been filed down slightly, just need to cut the top bolts down to size but it performs so well now I dont wanna touch it. The black on the rim is paint that hasn't been ground off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Heres my set up: Splitter is precision crafted by super on here, would have liked smaller hose fittings but hey. Magura mounts have been filed down slightly, just need to cut the top bolts down to size but it performs so well now I dont wanna touch it. The black on the rim is paint that hasn't been ground off Thanks very much for that. Also, I have had quite a few problems with my set-up. If it's too rigid, can it stop my brake honking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Doesn't a brake booster usually stop the "honk" ? Edited June 4, 2010 by dann2707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Doesn't a break booster usually stop the "honk" ? My bad mate. I tried to take my booster off and ride a bit, but it is just the same, except the brake lever is worse, and it holds like a soap on a banana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 they will bed in. they will be awesome. maybe take the wheel out and file the pads slightly just incase they have gotten some shit on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_coggan Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 When i had mine they took a couple of rides before makeing a loud squeek, but they were holding well streight away despite no squeek. Am not a coust's fan as i like a bitey pad more then a good hold pad. To me the coust's are a good hold pad with not the best bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Thank you Ash-Kennard! Your advices are always awesome! Hahaha. To my point of view, Coust! pads are the perfect pads, good hold, great bite, and perfect wear life! Edited June 4, 2010 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 They need a good 1-2 weeks worth of riding to bed in good and proper, and honk like fog horns. Steve@Heatsink usually rubs of the smooth shiny surface off the pads to bed in quicker. Patience is a coust'sink's virtue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 They need a good 1-2 weeks worth of riding to bed in good and proper, and honk like fog horns. Steve@Heatsink usually rubs of the smooth shiny surface off the pads to bed in quicker. Patience is a coust'sink's virtue Thanks a lot Rusevelt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 I found that for some reason grinding your rim can make a brake silent-ish. It's something to do with the grind itself, I'm no good at it. Another piece of advice would be to clean the pads and rim by dragging it on a wet rim and then washing the dirt off before the rim or pads dry out. Do it a few times and then drag the brake until it's dry. You should get a loud brake with loads of bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I found that for some reason grinding your rim can make a brake silent-ish. It's something to do with the grind itself, I'm no good at it. Another piece of advice would be to clean the pads and rim by dragging it on a wet rim and then washing the dirt off before the rim or pads dry out. Do it a few times and then drag the brake until it's dry. You should get a loud brake with loads of bite. i tried this before and it just wore the grind out massively. not worth doing if he said he has a try-all rim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Well, no worries anyone. I tried washing my pads with water, then aceton, then I tried to file the pads a bit, then used a grinder to file them more, then tried to wash my rim and make the grind wear out a bit... All I could get from these pads was a huge scary slippy squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak. Nothing like a honk or a biting brake... So I am back to real Coust pads with plastic backings, They are just simply the best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdonboy Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 i think aluminium backings take longer to bed in. And why is this exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 And why is this exactly? well, aluminium is is harder than plastic so it might take longer to wear down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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