Need Some Advice On Measurements. For Riding.

[Theo]

Hi there. Basically I'm looking for some ideal heights for taps, side hops and other stuff. I will set it out below and if someone could copy and paste it with decent measurements to fit the average rider that would be brill!. No Benito stuff.

• Side hop, slanted wall going from: Inches to: Inches.

• Tap1, easy height: Inches.

• Tap2, harder height: Inches.

• Gap1, wall to road railing: Inches.

• Gap2, second railing: Inches (after the first railing, two railings in a row if you get me:blink:)

• Small blocks: Inches (between each block)

Finally there is an L shaped wall next to the blocks. Here's a pic.

Height of smaller section: Inches

Height of larger section: Inches

Width: Inches

Would be great if someone could give me a hand with this.

Thanks

Theo

Edited May 23, 2010 by Theo

[casualjoe]

Side hop, slanted wall going from: 20" to 48"

Tap1, easy height: 38"

Tap2, harder height: 50"

Gap1, wall to road railing: 60"

Gap2, second railing: 48" (after the first railing, two railings in a row if you get me:blink:)

Small blocks, between each block: 48" or 60"

Finally there is an L shaped wall next to the blocks.

Height of smaller section: 26"

Height of larger section: 52"

Width: 24"

Would be fun for an hour or two

[Theo]

Would be fun for an hour or two

Thanks. Any suggestions on making it better then? There will be a natural section too. Just focusing on street at the moment.

[casualjoe]

Some rounded/curved obstacles like pipes or balls, some pillars, some sort of framework thing, some kickers..

[Theo]

Some rounded/curved obstacles like pipes or balls, some pillars, some sort of framework thing, some kickers..

What do you think? Open to suggestions/add ons.

[casualjoe]

Looks good! Mabey take away the plank from the big ball to the top and have a few more balls you can gap to the middle from. I can see lines going down

[Theo]

Looks good! Mabey take away the plank from the big ball to the top and have a few more balls you can gap to the middle from. I can see lines going down

Well I only have 10 grand. (I can't believe I just said that!) So the big balls might be a little ambitious on top of all the other stuff.

Just did as you said here. The location of the balls could be changed easily enough.

You will probably regret replying to this topic now, please could you give some of the most important measurements on this pic? It's up to you how you do it.

EDIT: or if you do it.

Edited May 24, 2010 by Theo

[Mark W]

Tech rail setups are only going to be of limited appeal to a limited number of riders, for a limited period of time.

...in my opinion, obviously.

[casualjoe]

The title of this thread should have been: I HAVE TEN F**KING GRAND!!!! - To spend on a trials park!

That would get more interest. I replied cause I remembered you mentioning the 50p money and thought you must have got the go ahead to build a trials park, so much for Haiti then.. Still, its a very cool topic

A complete bespoke framework thing would be quite pricy for how much your getting, you need some breezeblock walls. Id refer back to your first sketch and incorperate a few rails and some concrete pipes, pillars, lots of varying angles, gaps and lines.. Ask your local council to see what they have lying around and see if you can work with that. I've never done anything like this before but have thought about it lots so its all good fun..

[Theo]

Can you see this ok?

If so the only measurements I need now are the yellow sections. Maybe some others need changing. Im not sure. If you could take a look that would be a great help thanks.

Feel free to make any suggestions for changes / add-ons.

thanks

Theo

EDIT: something clearly went wrong with that pic. I shall have another try

Edited May 25, 2010 by Theo

[Mark W]

The way that at points of that diagram 26" looks the same distance as 50" destroys my mind when I'm trying to visualise it

[Theo]

Yeah sorry about that. I made it with no idea what size stuff should be. The final design should be a little better. Fingers Crossed.

[Theo]

Does anyone happen to know the height in inches of a standard road railing?

[matthew_coggan]

If am honest none of them courses realy intrest me if am honest, and inches WTF everyone workes in mm on drawings

needs some bigger gaps, ones you can do normally or to front

big drop gap 6ft + something abit testing for a begginer or someone scared of heights

Stairs, I like a good stair set can do loads on them

thats just my oppinion on what i would want, but i would never ride the course so design what you want not other people.

Design if for the peoples abbility that are going to use it most, and put in some bits for when you improve.

Edited May 26, 2010 by matthew_coggan

[Ash-Kennard]

If am honest none of them courses realy intrest me if am honest, and inches WTF everyone workes in mm on drawings

needs some bigger gaps, ones you can do normally or to front

big drop gap 6ft + something abit testing for a begginer or someone scared of heights

Stairs, I like a good stair set can do loads on them

thats just my oppinion on what i would want, but i would never ride the course so design what you want not other people.

Design if for the peoples abbility that are going to use it most, and put in some bits for when you improve.

hes a trials rider not an architect

why? can just use pallets for that

stairs are shit for trials bikes. you ever seen a riding spot at some stairs?

[Theo]

If am honest none of them courses realy intrest me if am honest, and inches WTF everyone workes in mm on drawings

needs some bigger gaps, ones you can do normally or to front

big drop gap 6ft + something abit testing for a begginer or someone scared of heights

Stairs, I like a good stair set can do loads on them

thats just my oppinion on what i would want, but i would never ride the course so design what you want not other people.

Design if for the peoples abbility that are going to use it most, and put in some bits for when you improve.

Thanks for the input, I will have a chat with the council and see what they say but some of the stuff there may be a little ambitious with the cash I have.

here is the better version.

[casualjoe]

Looks fun, what about a small block in the top corner for a gap up to the big block. Also, have one side of the sidehopping wall get higher in bike length steps and the other side like you have it now, makes a bit more out of the wall that way. I wouldn't line everything up so perpendicular, I would rotate a few set pieces 10-30* so that every gap has a range of sizes, possibly even tilt some of the top faces..

..and get some big concrete pipes in there

Edited June 6, 2010 by casualjoe

[Theo]

Looks fun, what about a small block in the top corner for a gap up to the big block. Also, have one side of the sidehopping wall get higher in bike length steps and the other side like you have it now, makes a bit more out of the wall that way. I wouldn't line everything up so perpendicular, I would rotate a few set pieces 10-30* so that every gap has a range of sizes, possibly even tilt some of the top faces..

..and get some big concrete pipes in there

It's been given in now. Im sure I will beable to get some pipes in the natural section though, even though its not exactly natural.

When I handed it in the council man said it could take up to two years from here All the health and safety rubbish to deal with now.

Thanks for all the help with this dude.

[theom]

All the health and safety rubbish to deal with now.

For the natural stuff, if you ever get the chance to go down to lee mill and check out the kind of setup they have there. Its right good fun to ride, somthing for everyone.

Edited June 6, 2010 by theom

[Theo]

For the natural stuff, if you ever get the chance to go down to lee mill and check out the kind of setup they have there. Its right good fun to ride, somthing for everyone.

Thanks man, I have been a few times great int it! I hope the design can be inspired from there, im sure it will be similar as the guy who designed that is helping me out with this.