Canardweb Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Hello, can anyone show how much tar I should put on my rear smooth rim to get my Heatsink yellow pads to work ace? A picture of your rear rim with some tar on it would be perfect. Thanks a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 A good amount is a hardly visible amount. For best performance, ideally clean your rim before each session. If the tar builds up it just feels crap. Either spin the wheel and lightly hold the tar against the rim. Will take 2 seconds to apply for an even coat. But it's easy to over do it. Or put four 1" lines across each side of the rim. So like top, bottom, left and right per side. Then drag your brake to bed it in. Just don't go mad with the stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 dont use tar...be a man.... tar will make any brake pads work...why would you ruin already decent quality brake pads with the use of tar? a very very light grind would give you better performance than using tar. i think you are just being lazy myself...sorry man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted May 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 dont use tar...be a man.... tar will make any brake pads work...why would you ruin already decent quality brake pads with the use of tar? a very very light grind would give you better performance than using tar. i think you are just being lazy myself...sorry man I don't want to grind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 In that case, you might as well sell the pads you got and just get some cheap Magura black pads. If you're using tar, it doesn't really matter what pads you run in that they'll all feel as gash as each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I don't want to grind! But why? Tar to me seems like a very dirty option. Decent pads, set up well on a clean smooth rim will work well, tehy will most likely work better on a grind but in both wet and dry conditions; tar just seems like a poor excuse for a badly set up brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 tar just seems like a poor excuse for a badly set up brake. This beautiful man speaks sence. I used to run tar and thought it was amazing. Then it rained..... Next day, propper bleed, pads set perfectly and good fresh grind = Best brake ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 In that case, you might as well sell the pads you got and just get some cheap Magura black pads. If you're using tar, it doesn't really matter what pads you run in that they'll all feel as gash as each other. Then again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYvW_T-qSjk Ignoring the brake fail, you have to accept the massivness of the dropgaps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twista Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Hope that helps, I use very little tar, but find it helps stop my brake slipping out backwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leistonbmx Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 All that tar has worn off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 A good amount is a hardly visible amount. For best performance, ideally clean your rim before each session. If the tar builds up it just feels crap. Or put four 1" lines across each side of the rim. So like top, bottom, left and right per side. Then drag your brake to bed it in. Just don't go mad with the stuff. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dd Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) Hope that helps, I use very little tar, but find it helps stop my brake slipping out backwards Why would you even put any tar on ground rim? Makes the brake crap. Why people are using smooth rims in trials anyways?! Never understood that! Kind of get the idea of using them on street bike (24/26) to have more modulation, but not in trials where you prety much need brake to be on or off. Soft brake pads make the brake feel uber poopness aka gash... Edited May 11, 2010 by 3dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twista Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 I'm running Rockman blues with a grind and a little tar, brake works awesome. The tar just stops the brake slipping, like I said. You can slag tar and the people who use it down all you like, but it works for me, and I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Ignoring the brake fail, you have to accept the massivness of the dropgaps... Kinda hard to 'ignore the brake fail' in a topic about brake fail, but regardless - tar makes pretty much all pads feel the same. Not very nice modulation at all, not a nice locking feeling (IMO - prefer the feel of a brake locking with a grind in that it feels more sort of 'definite' rather than 'I've just stuck to your rim'), not great for feathering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Kinda hard to 'ignore the brake fail' in a topic about brake fail, but regardless - tar makes pretty much all pads feel the same. Not very nice modulation at all, not a nice locking feeling (IMO - prefer the feel of a brake locking with a grind in that it feels more sort of 'definite' rather than 'I've just stuck to your rim'), not great for feathering. I completly agree with you thought Mark, I ride a shit load better with a grind, because I have pure trust in it. Smooth/Anodised can be pure win! But out of no-where they can go shit! Just if a bit of mud/dust etc gets on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted May 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Well I don't need any more tar, my pads are now perfectly setted, and my brake is honking like mad! Best brake ever... Thanks to everybody who helped me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant_ride Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Why would you even put any tar on ground rim? Makes the brake crap. Why people are using smooth rims in trials anyways?! Never understood that! Kind of get the idea of using them on street bike (24/26) to have more modulation, but not in trials where you prety much need brake to be on or off. Soft brake pads make the brake feel uber poopness aka gash... I've ridden for about 10-11 years, street and competition, and have always used Magura standard black pads on Mavic D521 rims (Most people probably won't even know what they are anymore.. shame) Hardly ever used tar, never had a grind, never had a problem. When I was well into my comps, it was the same kind of time that there was huge rise in the amount of people attending.. EBTC anyway, and grinds had just started getting popular. I remember so many people used to hate doing it but it was the only way to get a brake working in mud, puddles and streams which normally formed about half of each EBTC section. Pads are a hell of a lot better now than they used to be but honestly mate.. if you want to tar up, do it. I'd rather have to white spirit my rims and de-cake my pads every weekend than take a friggin' power tool to something I'd spent my hard earned cash on! How things change! Oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otacon Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Smooth rim ***, Old style zoo pads, fully smooth rim, tar = Best brake ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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