Ip Address

[Ash-Kennard]

was on demonoid earlier trying to download clash of the titans, (was watching it online but it only showed the first hour. very annoying) and someone said the link i was on was being watched in one of the comments, then someone said hide that damn IP of yours.

any idea if thats possible? how its done? who is it hidden from? safe downloads after that?

[Cahill Trials Kid]

were you wathcing this on megavideo or something like that ?

[Monty Man Sam]

yes you can hide your ip but is used more for hackers

go on a downloading site and try something like ip hider , i did have one ( i did not use for hacking , used so people did not see my ip )

but if you just downloading use like a peer block

http://download.cnet.com/IP-Hider/3000-2144_4-10539927.html

http://www.peerblock.com/

Edited May 10, 2010 by Monty Man Sam

[Muel]

If you have a dynamic IP, just reboot the router and get a new one.

You can also route through a proxy server if you can be arsed. Hackers don't just use an IP blocking service either, they often use a chain of computers around the world to stop them being tracked as easily.

[anzo]

any idea if thats possible?

how its done?

who is it hidden from?

safe downloads after that?

http://anonymouse.org/

The connection is made from you to the proxy, then the proxy to the website. This basically bypasses the direct relationship between you and the website - so the proxy takes over being 'you'.

It's hidden from the public - however any investigation from an ISP may still uncover you.

Technically speaking yes. Statistically speaking it's safe without a web proxy. But if you want peice of mind then go for it.

[Desmond Derv]

how about stopping illegal downloads? then you wont have to be scared some hacker is going to steal your stash of porn?

And most IP blockers lag like buggery, just browse safe... and rent/buy the dvd for f**k sake!

[Adam-Griffin]

Get off your high horse.

[Desmond Derv]

I can't I lost my foot stool, I'm stuck!

[Revolver]

Jump.

[anzo]

and rent/buy the dvd for f**k sake!

You've seen the prices of new DVD releases?

Who's the real thief?

[Desmond Derv]

You've seen the prices of new DVD releases?

Who's the real thief?

Lets think?.... hmmmm before on-line viewing and p2p software they were cheap..... so I think it because of these it has driven the price up, and the cinema price too.

I'll admit back in the day of Kazzaa I did my fair share to this.

Not like it will ever be stopped just don't think its to clever asking for a ip blocker in an forum (just my opinion that's all)

Edited May 12, 2010 by Desmond Derv

[Muel]

10 years ago no-one had broadband, no-one downloaded and yet albums were still £14+. I know this because I was there!

Albums are now cheap anyway, the average price is something like £8, twas on the news the other day.

DVDs seem to be roughly the same price as 10 years ago, but then again inflation has gone up a lot.

If there was a website where they sold albums for £2 and films for £3 and you downloaded them, everyone would buy legally.

EDIT: What about games and computer software? New games are at least £40, software is often £500 for some packages. So, so worth the risk, which is why everyone downloads illegally.

Edited May 12, 2010 by Muel

[Mr Motivator]

Pfft, just use TPB for films. Don't waste your time on MegaVideo etc.

Although NinjaVideo is v good!

[Simpson]

2k's worth of mathmatics software

Windows 7 + Office - £150?

700 DVD rips (inc) Blueray - £10 Average

All the TV series in full that I watch. Of least £700

All football managers, Command and conquers, etc. £300

£10,150 or £50 for a rapidshare and bittorent...wait... let me think about that...

[Mr Motivator]

The way forwards is usenet. but the first rule of usenet, is NO ONE talks about usenet.

Edited May 12, 2010 by Mr Motivator

[anzo]

Lets think?.... hmmmm before on-line viewing and p2p software they were cheap..... so I think it because of these it has driven the price up, and the cinema price too.

Some older stuff is cheap, Trainspotting is a classic and you can probably pick it up out of a bargin bin somewhere for £3.

I tend to think of it like this for purchasing DVD/music; if it costs you more than what you earn in an hour, it isn't worth it.

[Ash-Kennard]

Some older stuff is cheap, Trainspotting is a classic and you can probably pick it up out of a bargin bin somewhere for £3.

I tend to think of it like this for purchasing DVD/music; if it costs you more than what you earn in an hour, it isn't worth it.

so as a student who doesnt earn its okay to download for free. SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFE

[ManxTrialSpaz]

10 years ago no-one had broadband, no-one downloaded and yet albums were still £14+. I know this because I was there!

Albums are now cheap anyway, the average price is something like £8, twas on the news the other day.

DVDs seem to be roughly the same price as 10 years ago, but then again inflation has gone up a lot.

If there was a website where they sold albums for £2 and films for £3 and you downloaded them, everyone would buy legally.

EDIT: What about games and computer software? New games are at least £40, software is often £500 for some packages. So, so worth the risk, which is why everyone downloads illegally.

I don't particularly want to get into an argument about illegal downloads but the bit in bold is stupid. It is essentially like (obviously omitting the actual theft and loss of actual stock which doesn't occur in downloads) stealing from a Michelin star restaurant on the grounds that they shouldn't have priced the food so high. As if you have some sort of right to own/use the services provided.

[Muel]

Errm, yeh because this is exactly like that!

If I go to that restaurant and steal food, they no longer have the food. Therefore it is stealing because it's costing them money. If I were to go to the internet and download some software or a game, they're not losing out, because a lot of the stuff is so overpriced I'd just not buy it, or I'd buy it second hand instead.

Talking theoretically, I actually don't have any illegal software. I only download TV now because I could record that easily enough.

If you're interested to know, all my OSs are free through uni, as is most of my software, apart from Office 2007 which I bought for £35 through a student deal.

Edited May 12, 2010 by Muel

[tomturd]

If you have a dynamic IP, just reboot the router and get a new one.

True, but your ISP will still know who was using that IP at that time.

The piracy people only seem to care about people who download and share content rather than people who are only downloading. So turn off sharing too.

[MadManMike]

DVD's & CD's have actually gone down in price, but it's too little too late as far as I am concerned.

Now that file sharing is so easy (ie you no longer have to wait for an awful quality rip to download for days on 56k), people will download.

At €6.99 a month, Rapidshare is obviously going to be used!

That said, I buy quite a few things as I actually like having a collection and fancy boxsets etc...

[konstant]

To answer the original question,

You basically need to use a VPN or a proxy to hide your IP properly, which essentially are the same thing. Both rely on having access to another computer somewhere in the world, which often requires money... Sure there's the Tor network, which is great, but it's all horrendously slow and using it for P2P is fairly cheeky when people in China are using it to access Google.

VPNs are the most reliable way to securely tunnel ALL traffic through your ISP so that even they don't have a clue what's going on. You can rent VPN accounts for a monthly fee.

The other way is to use a SOCKS or similar proxy. If you're technically inclined these are straightforward to setup. I connect to a SOCKS proxy running on my webserver when I'm uni to allow me to use blocked websites without being caught.

Torrenting over a SOCKS proxy seems a bit hit and miss. Modern torrent clients also use UDP which isn't supported by SOCKS and is therefore sent unencrypted. I don't take the risk of torrenting at uni because they fine people who use P2P. But as a home user it would be an effective way to stop people catching you downloading things illegally.

Edited May 13, 2010 by konstant

[ManxTrialSpaz]

Errm, yeh because this is exactly like that!

If I go to that restaurant and steal food, they no longer have the food. Therefore it is stealing because it's costing them money. If I were to go to the internet and download some software or a game, they're not losing out, because a lot of the stuff is so overpriced I'd just not buy it, or I'd buy it second hand instead.

Talking theoretically, I actually don't have any illegal software. I only download TV now because I could record that easily enough.

If you're interested to know, all my OSs are free through uni, as is most of my software, apart from Office 2007 which I bought for £35 through a student deal.

I am aware of that, which is why I included the "omitting the actual theft and loss of actual stock which doesn't occur in downloads" part. The point I was trying to make is that the justification was flawed because it implied that playing video games or owning certain items of software is a necessity and ownership of these items is essential. However, it isn't. If you can't afford to buy software then tough shit, you can't have it. Even if a price is ridiculous that doesn't entitle you to download something, it just means that the software developer/publisher should rethink their pricing structure.

And don't feel like you have to justify yourself. I don't care if people download or don't - I just have a problem with that justification.

[Muel]

That wasn't justifying myself at all, I said I was speaking theoretically because I don't download software! (I'd also like to add, as a student certain pieces of software definately are essential, and way over priced, but I managed to get hold of legal copies of everything either cheap or free).

I didn't try to justify downloading TV, because I didn't feel the need to. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, obviously some people would disagree, but at the end of the day the law is very vague on it.

[ManxTrialSpaz]

That wasn't justifying myself at all, I said I was speaking theoretically because I don't download software! (I'd also like to add, as a student certain pieces of software definately are essential, and way over priced, but I managed to get hold of legal copies of everything either cheap or free).

I didn't try to justify downloading TV, because I didn't feel the need to. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, obviously some people would disagree, but at the end of the day the law is very vague on it.

Fair enough, just making sure I didn't come across as criticising on a personal level.

But I didn't think of the student side of things; I can see where that would be a problem. I think software should ideally be provided by the institution to be honest although as you said, you can get the software on the cheap.

And I agree with you on downloading tv shows. I swear I've seen or been told that it's legal to download tv shows that are aired on UK television (obviously as a UK resident). Not sure how that works with DVD releases though. But I just download A, for convenience and B due to impatience as it's mainly Lost that I'm d/ling.