foxinsocks Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Well, im on the market for a new bike, and i came across a '07 Toxsin frame. 1095 wheelbase, 390mm chainstays and +35mm rise. Now... i dont know how to treat these numbers. seems quite long on both ends, and im wondering if maybe it'll be a little too much. Im an intermediate rider, and i want something to help me progress faster. I ride urban trials. Also, im not the most flexible of guys.... i know it improves with time, but generally - i find it very much easier to bunnyhop or manual on a medium or short frame. But all my riding friends keep telling me - the longer the better:) Any thoughts? (especially if anyone has tried those frames and can compare them to something like the Pitbull or Control). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Personal preference, if you're new to trials you won't know what you like until you find it, try ridin some peoples bikes to see what you prefer before just diving in to a purchase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Its pretty damn long. Im more a fan or shorter bikes for sure, but what you really want to find out is the reach (centre of BB to centre of headtube) This gives a better indication of how the bike will feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I've tried my share of bikes - from Zebdi's to Zoo's. Just a week ago i tested, in one ride, a Pitbull, Echo Control, BT Raven, Fourplay and even a Mod. They all felt great, and i couldnt really go wild cuz i wasnt used to any of them. 24" had potential - its so light and flickable. Still, its less stable on the rear wheel, and i felt more at home on the 26" (a matter of getting used to i guess). Gut feeling - if im going towards "pure" trials. u know, the more "static" type of riding - a long frame will feel ok. But i got a feeling it will be easier to progress on a medium frame, like 1065-1080wb, rather than a super long one. Also, isnt 390mm a bit long for chainstays by today's standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Its pretty damn long. Im more a fan or shorter bikes for sure, but what you really want to find out is the reach (centre of BB to centre of headtube) This gives a better indication of how the bike will feel. Exactly what he says...but I prefer longer bikes. For instance, I'm 5 8" and my coust measures in at 1117, but only 670mm reach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackeh Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Its pretty damn long. Im more a fan or shorter bikes for sure, but what you really want to find out is the reach (centre of BB to centre of headtube) This gives a better indication of how the bike will feel. How does the reach affect the feel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 How does the reach affect the feel? Mwa ha ha. Short reach and you will feel crampt on the back wheel. Long reach and you will feel like your doing a superman all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzaicejack Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 It depends on how tall you are and what you prefer. I'd say to get a shorter frame . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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