Riley1 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Afternoon, Can anyone recommend a good lightweight rear tyre which is also reasonably priced? I notied that you can get a 2.3 Continental Vertical tyre for about £12 on ebay and they only weigh around 730g which is pretty good, would anyone advise using one on the rear? Any help or advice appreciated. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I used to run them back in the day when nothing else was available, seemed fine back then. Ran one on a bike about 2 years ago and it was noticeably slippy and puncture prone compared to even a Maxxis ST, let alone a Conti DK/RK. Maybe try a 2.2 Conti rubber queen or 2.5 / 2.35 singlewall maxxis minion ST from Tarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 They puncture reallly easily, and they aren't massively grippy. I recommend a Maxxis DH tyre for a budget, or a Continental Der Kaiser/Rain King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Folding 2.5" Kenda Nevegal DTC, really like mine Grippy, slightly thicker sidewalls compared to a conti rubber queen, although maybe a little heavier.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Folding 2.5" Kenda Nevegal DTC, really like mine Grippy, slightly thicker sidewalls compared to a conti rubber queen, although maybe a little heavier.. Might give that a try actually, only 850g as well which is pretty damn light for a 2.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) Cheers for the advice so far guys Edited April 14, 2010 by Riley1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Might give that a try actually, only 850g as well which is pretty damn light for a 2.5 I've tryed this tyre and found it not very good at stopping pinch flats, the sidewalls are really thin and the CAP PLY insert doesn't work for wide rims or when the tyre rims out under sidewards load. Lovely and light though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Schwalbe Big Bettys are ok too, but expensive for the decent compound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Prodigy Trials. Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) Onza Porcupines on Ebay are very light at 5260g Each, I had brought a pair of these 2 years ago and they are still on my bike with lots of Tread left. Edited April 16, 2010 by Mission Prodigy Trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Either they're 20" or they're talking shit. Either way they'll be useless for trial du monde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 OK my view on the Big Bettys, excellent grip and weight although after a month of riding you will find you get pinch flats as the internal snakebite protection is a brittle, disposable system that cracks as it absorbs the impact, rendering that part of the tyre unprotected. You can see all the cracks if you remove the tyre after a ride. Still a great tyre if you can afford to replace them regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Anyone tried the Maxis Larsen TT dual ply, 2.35"? I think they weigh around the 800g mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipod Bob Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 My next set will be for the rear http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?PartnerID=79&ModelID=30024 for the front http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=19166 I would run a tube in the Rear for extra but the tubeless tyre gives you extra strength side wall strength with only 800g its a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I've never run tubeless before, always wanted to try it. I remember FatMike on here experimenting with it years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Im quite interested to know if anybody has tried the Michelin Wild Rock'R 2.4 that Bigman mentioned a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Onza Porcupines on Ebay are very light at 260g Each, I had brought a pair of these 2 years ago and they are still on my bike with lots of Tread left. 260 grams? What are they made out of, must be thin air at that weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 People seem to have forgotten the difference between light tyres and good tyres. Most of the XC tyres mentioned in this thread are rubbish for trials, but then you didn't say what sort of riding you do. If you want light and cheap then the tyres are gonna pinch easy and have rubbish grip. OK my view on the Big Bettys, excellent grip and weight although after a month of riding you will find you get pinch flats as the internal snakebite protection is a brittle, disposable system that cracks as it absorbs the impact, rendering that part of the tyre unprotected. You can see all the cracks if you remove the tyre after a ride. Still a great tyre if you can afford to replace them regularly. I think you must have been unlucky and got a dodgy tyre? What version was it? Four locals including me are using Big Betty with the gooey gluey compound (not that grippy, but the best Schwalbe do) and have had no problems. Infact I know two guys who have used the same tyre for at least a year and they are still fine. Personally, its the lightest tyre I would ever use and I think anything lighter is useless unless your as smooth as Stan Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Continental Mountain King 2.4 TUBELESS... 790 grams, thick sidewalls (so great rebound and puncture resistance) and great grip! Don't use it Tubeless of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I've had 3 of them in gooey gluey, they are great tyres but I'm sure if you take yours off and look you will see the cracks I'm on about. Theres loads of protection still left of course but over time the chance of you landing exactly on a crack increases with the number of cracks. Had hopes for the Conti RQ 2.2 but with no Apex and judging from Tartys handy tyre guide it shows that, compared with the 2.4, just the width has been decreased, instead of the entire profile being scaled down, surely making it even more unstable. I agree anything lighter than 800 grams just isn't suitable for general trials use but the possibility of making a really good 900 gram tyre for the lazier amongst us hasn't been realised yet. I don't always want to drag a Der Kaiser around when I'm messing about near my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Im quite interested to know if anybody has tried the Michelin Wild Rock'R 2.4 that Bigman mentioned a while back. I keep checking to see when these are available, no where has the in the UK at the moment, I did find somewhere that had them in stock in france, but stupidly did not order one, and then when I checked back they had sold out Chainreaction do have the 2.1 version in stock though, could be a good front tyre. Although I can not say anything about the rubber compound, they say they have super soft compound, but i don't know how soft that is. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Hey Bigman, having a little read about those Rock'Rs it seems the extra layer around the bead is just to stop the rim wearing into the tyre and not to protect against snakebites. Not a problem I was ever aware of As always, only one way to know for sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipod Bob Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Continental Mountain King 2.4 TUBELESS... 790 grams, thick sidewalls (so great rebound and puncture resistance) and great grip! Don't use it Tubeless of course! i beat you to it xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Continental Mountain King 2.4 TUBELESS... 790 grams, thick sidewalls (so great rebound and puncture resistance) and great grip! Don't use it Tubeless of course! But they aren't proper Continentals, they are basic and cheap copies made in the far east with Conti's name on. They may resist punctures, but the compound is rubbish for trials! They don't have black chilli compound, which on the Mountain Kings still isn't very good anyway! (Its an XC compound designed for fast rolling rather than grip) If you want a light continental, I don't see whats wrong with the Rubber Queen? Its grippier than any version of the mountain King and is fairly puncture resistant considering its made from feathers? I've had 3 of them in gooey gluey, they are great tyres but I'm sure if you take yours off and look you will see the cracks I'm on about. Theres loads of protection still left of course but over time the chance of you landing exactly on a crack increases with the number of cracks. Had hopes for the Conti RQ 2.2 but with no Apex and judging from Tartys handy tyre guide it shows that, compared with the 2.4, just the width has been decreased, instead of the entire profile being scaled down, surely making it even more unstable. I agree anything lighter than 800 grams just isn't suitable for general trials use but the possibility of making a really good 900 gram tyre for the lazier amongst us hasn't been realised yet. I don't always want to drag a Der Kaiser around when I'm messing about near my house. Well you seem to know what you are talking about so I will keep my eye on mine, but so far so good. I took it off the other day to grind my rim and didn't notice any issues. Infact I don't think I've managed to pinch it yet, although I am getting smoother (or maybe weaker) in my old age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Just incase anyone was interested, I have ordered one of the 2.4 Michelin Rock R's i was saying about, should have it around the middle of next week, So i will give a review of it once i have ridden it. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Just incase anyone was interested, I have ordered one of the 2.4 Michelin Rock R's i was saying about, should have it around the middle of next week, So i will give a review of it once i have ridden it. Adam Nice will be interesting to see the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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