Kieran Morrison Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 The cylinders are identical to the HS33. Yes - it seems the HS11 is better suited to trials riders. read what he said kieran mate. the brakes are the same they just look a little different. the hs11 will be the preffered one i assume because it is cheaper and comes with the longer lever blade That's what I meant though, what I put in bold. And yeah Mike, fresh start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Styles Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 That's what I meant though, what I put in bold. And yeah Mike, fresh start mike was being sarcastic.... you are being the same as you was before.... and in answer to your question, which has already been answered severaltimes... the hs11 has a longer lever blade than the hs33. this means that the hs11 has more leverage in the lever. and as mark said, it gives 16% more power than the hs33. thats as simpal as its going to get, so if you still dont get it, then god help you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 And are any of you Tarty team using them yet? I don't use brakes, Adam runs dual disc, Gav runs dual disc and Stan has the nicest feeling brake ever so may not change. Ali, on the other hand, is keen - as far as I know, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 narr, my brakes are coming off again after the next vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 No comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 dunno, might get one for shits and giggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Elson Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 what are they like bleed with water? same feel? basically how much different is the feeling from the normal hs33's? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Yoshi Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 The TPA is more like one of the RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Sort of - it's still quite a bit different. Regarding the feel and so on - the internals/piston sizes/stuff like that are the same as the old HS33, so it should be similar to before. The lever blades feel a lot nicer on the new ones though. They feel almost more like a V-brake lever (in terms of having a slightly more angled tip, and the blade profile) compared to the old style ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 mike was being sarcastic.... you are being the same as you was before.... and in answer to your question, which has already been answered severaltimes... the hs11 has a longer lever blade than the hs33. this means that the hs11 has more leverage in the lever. and as mark said, it gives 16% more power than the hs33. thats as simpal as its going to get, so if you still dont get it, then god help you! Oh! Sorry I thought there was another reason for it being better for trials. Sorry :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Congratulations for reinforcing your title as the most annoying and stupid member of the forum. Who lives in Inverness and can go and give this idiot a slap? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Couple more photos... The bleed system is a little different to current, should be easier to do though. Instructions are in the manual with the brakes (page 14 and 15). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the trials mop Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 is the washer/pivot (circled) the tpa screws through plastic or metal? as this is what usually goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 All the parts are metal, apart from the bit you grip with your fingers to turn. Anyone who breaks a new TPA is officially a 'tard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Nice work for those photos Ad, is the lever blade pin held in place with a grub screw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the trials mop Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 All the parts are metal, apart from the bit you grip with your fingers to turn. Anyone who breaks a new TPA is officially a 'tard Ha ok, this means that I'll never break another tpa or it will be set in stone that I'm official a chimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Haha, they are pretty impossible to overtighten, and it can't 'pop off the end of the thread' like the current system, so you should be fine The pin is pressed in, so I'm assuming the cover actually has a function since the pin might come a bit loose after a lot of use. Nothing a nut and bolt or superglue couldn't sort out though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 The pin is pressed in, so I'm assuming the cover actually has a function since the pin might come a bit loose after a lot of use. Nothing a nut and bolt or superglue couldn't sort out though! Tartybikes specialist maggie lever replacement pins to be manufactured? It doesnt look too bad with just the cover on there but the rubber boot is minging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty-james Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 hi put mine on this week and the performance of the brake is very very promising the brake feels alot stiffer than the old hs 33 the power is very good too. the material seems to be as good as magura said it was. thumbs up to it at the mo thanks wes Sounds promosing. Still not keen on the look though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab shropshire Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Excuse me if i have missed something in here but, if the hs11 and the hs33 are the same brake functionally ie weight, material, piston diameters, Why the difference in price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 HS33s have a painted silver finish, rather than the standard black, and more sculpted/contoured lever covers and hose boots. Functionally they're the same. There's also the option of a 2-finger blade, whereas there isn't on the HS11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab shropshire Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 cleared up mate thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Bit of an odd setup then making them exactly the same bar the finish, why not produce 1 and just offer it with either a 2 or 4 finger lever and be done with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 The HS33 is available in 2 or 4, just not from us, for the record... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 The HS33 is available in 2 or 4, just not from us, for the record... Thats fair enough but it still seems weird to market 2 identical brakes purely on their colour scheme, then again they've been in the game a lot longer than me so obviously have there reasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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