liam1992 Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 When your OEM sales dwarf your non OEM sales I'd imagine that OEM customers would be more important for Magura, meaning that 'we' aren't the 'only' ones who care what Magura does with it? They 'bothered' because it makes the brakes much more useful for OEM customers, it has a stronger body, it's easier to bleed and makes stock levels a lot easier for shops who are supplying to non OEM customers. You not liking the looks of their new lever doesn't mean it's a bad product. They've stopped making them already, although there's still residual stock as certain shops. Mark, will the 05 ones still be available to buy or will they be discontinued? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Oh ... my bad ... I didnt see that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo!Man Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Well, they've just arrived here in Spain: here it is. As you can see, the price (83€) is only a little bit higher than the '05 model (81€), so this is a great thing IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty-james Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 When are they available in the U.K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny--Trials Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Never i hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Styles Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Never i hope your one of very very few... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modifiedridah2k9 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 your one of very very few... I might get one... depends on money... When are they out here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 They don't look as nice, but as long as they perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 hurry up with those pics Mark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Couple of photos of our's up on the blog that show some previously un-seen aspects of them. More details tomorrow when we get the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 are they stiffs? they also look quite nices without the covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 They look WAY better without the covers, I would happily run those Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 I dont know the lack of replaceable lever is a bit poo, seems a bit of a standard part when it comes to disc brake levers; so why not maguras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Cheaper to make, I guess. The whole new line is designed to be super cost effective so they can make them a better option for an OEM brake, which they seem to be doing (hence the little clip-on covers being customisable for companies and so on). They don't really seem to be designed as an aftermarket part, almost - I mean, they are, obviously, but they're less... 'modular', I guess, than the old style ones. They also come with 2m long hoses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Have they got the TPA right? 3rd time lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Cheaper to make, I guess. The whole new line is designed to be super cost effective so they can make them a better option for an OEM brake, which they seem to be doing (hence the little clip-on covers being customisable for companies and so on). They don't really seem to be designed as an aftermarket part, almost - I mean, they are, obviously, but they're less... 'modular', I guess, than the old style ones. They also come with 2m long hoses... Makes sense I guess, have to sell to your market and unfortunately we are only a very small part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykid009 Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 I much prefer them without the covers on. Any idea as to what they might cost yet? James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Have they got the TPA right? 3rd time lucky? Seems really good. Nice to use, and harder to strip, theoretically! It seems to have been made to be used in the way most people try and use it (which used to be the 'wrong' way with the old one). Makes sense I guess, have to sell to your market and unfortunately we are only a very small part of it. To be fair, the brakes are still pretty good - from our sales it seems like the vast majority of people with HS33s use either the standard or long Magura blades with them, so it's essentially no different once you've got the blade length you want. I much prefer them without the covers on. Any idea as to what they might cost yet? James The HS11 will be roughly the same price as the current HS33s, and the HS33s are going to be something like £20 more, but don't quote me on that - that was just what I could remember from earlier. Prices should be up tomorrow. They're supplied in one colour only as standard, but different coloured caps are available for them. This basically means if you buy a HS11 you'll get a black body/black cap, and if you get a HS33 you'll get a silver body with black cap. There's different colour options depending on the brake, and potentially other caps available too if other manufacturers decide to get some custom made from Magura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 They look WAY better without the covers, I would happily run those Adam This! So these are made from this 'x' material right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 hi put mine on this week and the performance of the brake is very very promising the brake feels alot stiffer than the old hs 33 the power is very good too. the material seems to be as good as magura said it was. thumbs up to it at the mo thanks wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Those screws look rather 'special'... They remind me of those weird self tappers you get with DIY furniture! Surely they're not metric? In other news- no covers makes them so much more aesthetically pleasing! In otherother news- Trekking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 (edited) Those screws look rather 'special'... They remind me of those weird self tappers you get with DIY furniture! Surely they're not metric? In other news- no covers makes them so much more aesthetically pleasing! They do look alot better without the covers, but those screws really dont look clever, perhaps 'material X' isnt strong enough to hold a metric coarse thread I would much rather have a standard thread form. edit: is it an optical illusion or is the hs11 lever longer? Edited September 23, 2010 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 The HS11s have a 4-finger blade, HS33s have a 2-finger blade. The brakes are supplied with that bolt to make it harder to strip the body out, which is definitely a good thing. The actual clamp is made out of aluminium, but the rest of the body is made of Magura's composite material so I'd imagine a 'normal' thread would probably strip fairly easily. More info up on the website, just put it up now, including all the photos 'n' stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 The HS11s have a 4-finger blade, HS33s have a 2-finger blade. Thought it looked longer! Theyre not interchangeable are they? So does that mean that 90% of trials riders are going to be using the HS11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Presumably. HS11 info is now up too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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