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Easy guys,

Basically, me being on TF 24/7, I have noticed there are alot less active members since the upgrade.

There used to be well over 100+ active members, now it hardly ever reaches 100. Just a shit load of Bots.

Is it just me? ..

Your worrying about the fact that your sat staring at your PC and others are out doing something good?

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What?

I've read that sentence like, more times over that I can remember now and I've no idea what the hell you've just said.

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I'm quoting that shit for reference.

How heads have senior member status since the start of trials forum, and is it destined never to grow in numbers?

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It's more of a place for ideas and things to be tossed about/to negotiate the Tartybikes SM discount each year rather than much of a discussion forum. There's only really ever the odd post in there every few days when someone updates the porn thread, otherwise it's just a monthly update on Pete Wright's latest attempts at a new account

LMAO!

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I think the "Senior member" section is a major flaw in this forum.

Why purposely make a section which only members deemed special enough can be involved in?

Seems like saying 'you lot are just plebs and are not good enough to read what we're talking about.'

I can understand some of the reason behind it like very young kids pestering their 'Heros' but if normal members could at least read the section if not post in it then it would remove another barrier from trials in general.

Whats the big secret?

It's all a bit gay to be honest.

On the original topic I don't think it's numbers of visitors that is letting it down, it's mostly the inane drivel that is being written constantly, the NMC section is way more interesting at the mo even chit chat has gotten boring.

It's not really a 'us and them' section really - there are a lot of topics regarding forum development to get the views of people who have been here the longest or that show enough intelligence to put across a valid opinion on something.

If 'normal' members were able to read the forum, they'd just post a reply in another sub-forum so it kind of defeats the whole object. It's just a place where admins/moderators can get feedback regarding the running of the forum without it turning into a petty argument.

Chit Chat has becoming boring? Personally I don't think it has - but if you think so, feel free to post something interesting up, try starting a debate on something or do something creative!

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It's not really a 'us and them' section really - there are a lot of topics regarding forum development to get the views of people who have been here the longest or that show enough intelligence to put across a valid opinion on something.

If 'normal' members were able to read the forum, they'd just post a reply in another sub-forum so it kind of defeats the whole object. It's just a place where admins/moderators can get feedback regarding the running of the forum without it turning into a petty argument.

Chit Chat has becoming boring? Personally I don't think it has - but if you think so, feel free to post something interesting up, try starting a debate on something or do something creative!

Yeah... but it's mainly about the porn and discounts.

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It's not really a 'us and them' section really - there are a lot of topics regarding forum development to get the views of people who have been here the longest or that show enough intelligence to put across a valid opinion on something.

If this is the case, how come I'm not in there yet? Please don't read this as me bitching because I spend too long on here as it is, I'm just saying I've been here for getting on 4 years now, never really fallen out with anyone or caused any trouble? I've been warn free since the warn reset I seem to remember.

Or is just that the seniors vote their bestest friends in? ;)

(Hope this doesn't come across as either begging or complaining, I wouldn't mind being a senior just to see what goes on, but I won't lose sleep over it.)

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If this is the case, how come I'm not in there yet? Please don't read this as me bitching because I spend too long on here as it is, I'm just saying I've been here for getting on 4 years now, never really fallen out with anyone or caused any trouble? I've been warn free since the warn reset I seem to remember.

Or is just that the seniors vote their bestest friends in? ;)

(Hope this doesn't come across as either begging or complaining, I wouldn't mind being a senior just to see what goes on, but I won't lose sleep over it.)

Theres loadsa people that fit in that category, I should imagine at one of the meetings you were suggested, but one of the elders blackballed you. (google it, its not a sexual activity)

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I'm enjoying the boasting going on here from the SM's (not even being sarcastic)

If you want discounts you better learn to take a throat poking.

I can see this thread turning into a new members style "when will I be validated (turned into a TF overlord)" thread. Which will hopefully turn out some 'desperate member gold' posts.

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If this is the case, how come I'm not in there yet? Please don't read this as me bitching because I spend too long on here as it is, I'm just saying I've been here for getting on 4 years now, never really fallen out with anyone or caused any trouble? I've been warn free since the warn reset I seem to remember.

Or is just that the seniors vote their bestest friends in? ;)

(Hope this doesn't come across as either begging or complaining, I wouldn't mind being a senior just to see what goes on, but I won't lose sleep over it.)

Meh! I've been here 8!

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I'm enjoying the boasting going on here from the SM's (not even being sarcastic)

If you want discounts you better learn to take a throat poking.

I can see this thread turning into a new members style "when will I be validated (turned into a TF overlord)" thread. Which will hopefully turn out some 'desperate member gold' posts.

Just a quick question - you are aware the discount thing is a joke, right?

It does feel a bit shit when you see senior members that have been here for only 3 or 4 years when I've been here from the very beginning with bashguard etc. There are a lot of people that I think need upgrading like, madmanmike and jd etc.

You have no idea how long it takes to get people SM'd. There's a thread where people get nominated, but it seems to take forever most of the time...

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You have no idea how long it takes to get people SM'd. There's a thread where people get nominated, but it seems to take forever most of the time...

Mods should be given the power then, and Seniors should be able to validate people from NMC.

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These debates appear from time to time, the powers that be have the system in place, it's not gonna change. The only people that complain are those that want to be made senior. Sure, I'd like to be senior but much like NMC - if you complain about it you'll never be made senior :)

Not saying anyone is moaning, but you know what I mean...

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Mods should be given the power then, and Seniors should be able to validate people from NMC.

Lots of SMs use the report button if they think someone should be insta-validated, but other than that I think people use the normal button.

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SM Chat is a 'barrier' in trials? Haha, what? SM chat's sweet because it's nice to have something on here where people can talk about more serious stuff without having certain spackers messing everything up. It was initially started to get ideas on how to run the forum better, and that's still primarily the reason it's there. Topics in the main forum about how the forum runs just don't really work because most people don't appear to be capable of coherent thought, so it definitely helps out in terms of getting things done on here.

The porn, shit-talking and pirate materials are just a bonus.

I do quite often wish there where a few more serious topics on the main forum...

Damn you all.

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It does feel a bit shit when you see senior members that have been here for only 3 or 4 years when I've been here from the very beginning with bashguard etc. There are a lot of people that I think need upgrading like, madmanmike and jd etc.

lordy lord get this man made a senior!

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It's not really a 'us and them' section really - there are a lot of topics regarding forum development to get the views of people who have been here the longest or that show enough intelligence to put across a valid opinion on something.

If 'normal' members were able to read the forum, they'd just post a reply in another sub-forum so it kind of defeats the whole object. It's just a place where admins/moderators can get feedback regarding the running of the forum without it turning into a petty argument.

That's a fair point but...

If this is the case, how come I'm not in there yet? Please don't read this as me bitching because I spend too long on here as it is, I'm just saying I've been here for getting on 4 years now, never really fallen out with anyone or caused any trouble? I've been warn free since the warn reset I seem to remember.

...there are a whole bunch of people on here who can discuss development of this forum without it turning into a bitch fest. So why hide those topics away from those many members? Why reduce it to the ideas of a dozen or so people who weren't really selected because of their forum development skills, but because of their level of respect. I personally have been very vocal about suggestions for the forum, some of which have actually been implemented (FS / WTD been split up into two subforums for example), I'm not made a SM because of my lack of ability to make valid suggestions, but because I'm not a respected enough member. There's no reason why the topics in SM chat shouldn't be discussed openly with the rest of the members. TF should use it's member base as the great resource is it, and from time to time we see that happen with great results.

I can fully understand why there does need to be a group of people discussing things in a hidden forum, discussing topics with issues about specific members, or specific advertisers do need to be kept private. I'm not suggesting that the SM system need to be ditched, or that more SM should be made. All I'm saying for now is that some topics shouldn't be hidden away. Hell why not make a forum suggestion / forum discussion thread, we have loads of new subforums these days might aswell be one more. :rolleyes:

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